if caterpillar or gm decides to offshore the production instead of building a factory in peoria or detroit, what you have is a loss of jobs right there of the big company, and then what you lose next is the supply chain which creates many, many more times number of jobs as the big oems and the original equipment manufacturers and once that supply chain is gone, then you lose the service sector jobs, so that manufacturing creates service sector jobs, but the service sector jobs don't create manufacturing. >> i want the bring in bob. are you confident if the president wins a second term that the little signs of the recovery summer as joe biden called it 28 months after the recovery summer, do they continue with a second term of obama? >> i am not confident and in addition to the globalization problem is the labor saving technological devices when you talk about dispensing with american jobs and the economy tot totally linked to the good jobs you don't have the consumer demand tor capability to buy the goods and services that we can produce. that is is what we need to do. we need to address t