see you soon catherine avery. going to vote are you buying katherine pitch on ibm guy? >> mel can you read my smart board please. >> gary cohen # gdc. >> yes, as you know, mel, typically, historically there's three certainties in life, death, taxes, and my jump shot i will add a forge never bet against gary cohen now a year in as chair at ibm if anyone can figure it out it's gdc. >> i'm a buy. >> wow. >> i think it's a nice, solid line drive up the middle doesn't need to be a home run but if you think of ibm they found a way to give you mid-single digits revenue and more importantly giving you 10 to 15% free cash flow yields in this environment is defensive. >> what's your vote, karen >> yeah, so i'm with the boys there. this is a not so clever incorporation of the ibm logo to say i buy. i like cheap valuation is always interesting, to me, hopefully she's right about software and better margins, so, interesting risk-reward. >> steve grasso. >> it's a sweep. >> wow. >> it's a sweep and i think it could really turn