we had catherine belton, an author whose book, putin's people, is regarded as a definitive book on putin'srussia, talking about the way the russian orthodox church was promoted in eastern ukraine before and after 2014. you, as a priest in that church, serving in madrid, saw and heard all of these things. i just wonder why it took the invasion of 2022 to become a tipping point for you? well, i think everyone has his own tipping point, and this was really the point of division, which required a choice on behalf of everyone, including the laity and the priests. but, you know, before that, before the full invasion of russia into ukraine has begun, all the russian church was really praying for peace and reconciliation in the east of ukraine. was it, really? was the patriarch kirill praying for peace? well, these were the prayers that were in use, at least liturgically. and something has changed in a very radical way when the war has begun. and from the language of reconciliation, the official language has become that of victory. so, for example, most of the priests who are being repressed now i