mean the thought of yet another political stand of the migration for more i'd like to welcome catherine bullard, the director of the european council on refugees and exiles. thank you for taking the time we have here. thousands of people arriving within 24 hours. why are we seeing so many people arriving now to it, is because of the situation in the countries of origin of the people arriving wherever we're seeing increased situations of persecution in security for j. let's say that is leading people to leave. but also the situation in the countries of trends, let's say, where previously people might have been able to stay working, live in dignity in a country like new seo or libya. and that has become increasingly difficult with the rise, for instance of races to tax. and she needs here, which is a propelling people to try to move on to go to europe. so it's a combination of reasons that leads to the numbers of people arriving and which none the less remain manageable, should that be a collective european response, which is what we need now to deal with the agent situation and non produce. uh,