catherine hooper will. you lived just over there. you miss the apartment?madoff: not really. >> safer: she lives a simpler life now in a three-room apartment in south florida. but she remains ruth madoff, lawful wife of the greatest financial criminal in history. why haven't you filed for a divorce from this man? >> ruth madoff: i don't know. it doesn't matter to me. he's going to die in prison. i certainly don't want to find another man these days. >> safer: he'll probably see this interview. are you concerned about...? >> ruth madoff: i was thinking about that. no, i'm not concerned. he should hear it. >> safer: believe her or not, the thousands of victims may have little sympathy for andrew and ruth, but it can't be denied that they, too, are victims of bernie madoff. there's mark and andrew. >> ruth: uh-huh, in happier times. >> safer: they lost a son and brother, and will forever carry the shame of the madoff name. >> andrew madoff: what he did to me, to my brother, and to my family is unforgivable. what he did to thousands of other people, destroyed t

catherine hooper says the madoff benign dictatorship took some getting used to. >> hooper: it was ang to understand that the boundaries in andrew's family were probably going to be different than what i was used to. >> safer: did you feel that papa madoff was the boss? >> hooper: there's no question that he was. >> ruth madoff: he could be a bully, without question. >> safer: but did you ever suspect, along the way, either strange behavior or somebody who was bottling up a secret or any of that? >> ruth madoff: i never did. i never did. it didn't seem that way. there was nothing that would make me suspect anything. sometimes, i look back and i think, as the years went on, he started to get more and more short-tempered, and maybe he was just having trouble. obviously, he had to have been. >> safer: in the fall of 2008, the world economy began to implode and markets were in free fall. big investors wanted out. redemption after redemption strained madoff's scheme to its limits. on december 10, 2008, with only a few hundred million left of the billions invested with him, madoff realized

>> my name is catherine hooper, with the fleet week association. when i was here last year -- here i go. [laughter] i said to watch out, because it would be bigger and better than ever, and it was. the general took a lot of what i was going to say. the amount of time that went into this, the amount of communication, the amount of relationship reform measurement , and the articles of the volunteers -- 75 that we can name, not to mention everyone down in camp pendleton, it was a celebration. when we were writing thank-you letters, we were trying to get at some facts. one of the things that charlotte said, when she was addressing the opening reception, it was one of the hard core things. humanitarian response. i wanted to make sure that not one of our sailors purchased a beer in town. and it happened. they were all telling us that we had really turned around their opinion of san francisco. we do have a quirky reputation. which is being nice. but we have really turned around that reputation. i think that our city fathers, the people that run the city,

her son, andrew madoff, and his fiancee, catherine hooper. >>> a show of support from occupied wall streetsters for their fellow protesters out in octobakland. protesters here showed a sign of solidarity. they were trying to get a flag down someone had put on a statue at one point. nobody has been arrested. the city has decided to allow protesters back into the plaza, but they will not be allowed to spend the night. meanwhile, an iraq war veteran who was among the demonstrators was critically injured during tuesday's confront frontation which something struck him in the head. a protest group says police fired the projectile that hit him. >>> it took most of the night, but the european union agreed to a deal to help greece with its massive debt. jackie deangelis joins us with more on that. >> european leaders were literally burning the midnight oil trying to reach an agreement. the deal that they did strike will provide greece with a second bait youl and it puts 50% of the burden of my losses from greek bonds on the european banks. leaders agreed to expand the size of their rescue fund to a