this is catherine howard. he put her out there. was very beautiful in -- and it was partially lost. he put her out as somebody who would draw out to the bad elements in his court. if you want to find out who your friends are, you put something out there in the open that you know they will want. something that is covetable. this is how he picked out who was loyal and who was not. she was disloyal. he had to executors, even if he did not want to because she was a silly child. he had to from a masculine point of view. tavis: now that you are in your fourth and final season, what have you learned about the viewing audience, courtesy of this vehicle? >> i think the viewing audience is smarter than they believe they are. they have an extraordinary interest in history. they have an interest in this part of history because it seems like there was something really kind of debonair about this time. the costumes, our custom designer is extra merit. the costumes were absolutely period and of the time but they were so enigmatic. you could wear