for a deeper look into just what today's jobs numbers reveal, we turn to catherine mann, professor of economics and finance at brandeis university; and john challenger, chief executive officer of the outplacement firm challenger, gray, and christmas, which recently surveyed people out of work for extended periods. thank you batt for talking with us, to you first, as you look at these numbers, what strikes you,s what a most important here? >> well, you know, i was ready to cheer when i saw the unemployment rate, when i first looked at the numbers this morning going down to 9.4%. and it was only when we started looking at the underpinnings that it sort of became far more nuanced. it is a problem that the bulk of the improvement has come from people who have left the labor force. primarily men who have left the labor force and are no longer looking for work. and so that's why the unemployment rate fell so much. now there are some bright spots. the nature of the job creation, leisure and hospitality, one can argue that people are feelinging a little bit better about their pocketbook that