tom: one final question with catherine mann. n post" and not a single word on fiscal affairs. how do you get fiscal affairs on the front cover of newspapers in america? catherine: when interest rates go up. on the long and in particular. tom: how many races are we away -- raises are we away? catherine: it may be a while. depends on whether the financial markets take note of the selloff number. tom: catherine mann, thanks for joining us. gaspar, thanks for being the talk of this meeting. on fiscale primer economics. saving for a rainy day at the international monetary fund. we are going to continue discussion with adam pozen of the peterson institute. and yes, we will speak with governor carney and the bank of england. from washington, please stay with us worldwide. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ tom: this morning, quiet markets and a quiet washington. the present appears -- president appears to have a key democratic vote for secretary of state pompeo. candidate, mayor, and u.s. attorney says mr. mueller should be "allowed to do his job."

cap and man, -- catherine mann is really on this, we are seeing these mergers because nothing is happeningy for revenue growth? it's not there, is it? mr. palmer: that's a fair point. there is definitely desperation to grow your customer rate and grow your scale. tom: a bunch of suits and ties are worried about their bonus 90 days outcome of going into synergy. all this is a 15% synergy exercise. mr. palmer: some of these deals, you can make that argument. but with humana and walmart, there would be a lot of synergy. tom: i get the advantage for humana. what is the advantage for walmart in buying a net income business that looks like kroger? mr. palmer: i think the object is to get more people into walmart stores and the way you can do that is by delivering health care into the stores. it's an unproven model and cvs nnr trying to do it. -- cbs are trying to do it. cvs and wander into maybe you get a prescription, i get that, but walmart? lisa: walmart has space and they can provide the in-store services that i thank you man is working for. -- that humana is looking for. i want to talk abou