for more, we go to catherine nicholson. catherine, walk us through this meeting after a week of heated exchanges. it certainly does, and i'm sure, molly, you and our kindrs will know that this of conflict between an new european leader and it established one is often or formality. you see we have the guards ready to go. everything looks like it would for one of these visits, but the atmosphere is tensor than usual. thatentioned the row happened between emmanuel macron and the italian prime minister inr italy's refusal to take an ngo ship with more than 6000 migrants in the mediterranean. there's a row and emmanuel being said that italy was cynical and acting irresponsibly. and outater not out apologize -- he did say on the mean to ushe did not and italy or italians. this meeting was almost scrapped, but as you can see, it is going ahead. we expect the italian prime minister to shore up intensive we expectes time -- the italian prime minister to 10 to 15 minutes time. italy is a country that has seen itself doing a lot of the