>> roman catholic. >> what would you say to your fellow catholics watching this who look at this and see a woman as priest and say that just isn't real, and the mass you've gone to has no legitimacy. >> for me it is real. it's as real as a male priest standing there. what's the difference? just because one is a woman and one is a man? i don't think god distinguishes. >> but via acknowledges that her battle with the catholic church has cost her, from broken friendships to the pain of excommunication. >> i remember being really rieved about not being able to be buried in a catholic cemetery. that was sort of the ultimate exclusion. you can't take the sacraments. i knew i would be excommunicated so i knew i could not accept the sacraments in a canonical catholic church anymore, unless i was unknown to the population there, which is hard for me to be in san diego. >> what do you say to those who would say join another community of faith, join another faith, become something else, but don't stay in the catholic church with your views. you would say what? >> for me to just turn my back on

catholic schools open. here students devise real solutions for real-world problems. the new approaches are needed. over the last decade, 26% of catholic schools have closed. because of the recession, funding is down, the cost of running the schools is up, and enrollments have plummeted. >> there has been a drop in enrollment, and over the last 30 or 40 years it's over 2 million fewer students. from my point of view, it's a crisis. >> the situation is so dire, says the bishop in charge of the archdiocesan schools in philadelphia, something entirely different, call it an educational hail mary, was needed. >> we're in this because our educational stem was imploding. enrollmentwise, financewise, something radical -- radical surgery had to be done. we cannot do it the same old way. >> so the archdiocese has now given management of 21 of its schools, including conwell-egan and schools in the inner city, to a private foundation called faith in the future. it will help sell the schools to potential students and rai

to the don't vote for that guy, he's not irish-catholic. only an irish-catholic can look after you.they looked after their own pockets. >> any comments on the lobotomy story with his daughter rosemary being done so she would not embarrass the kennedys and prevent the boys from becoming president? >> yeah. i spent a lot of time researching and found a lot of stuff. no. you can blame kennedy for a lot of stuff, but not for this. he loved that child. when he moved all the other children back to the united states, when the french -- when germany, when world war ii began, he kept rosemary with him in england because she was doing really well in the school, and he looked after her, and when you see the pictures, read the letters, i mean, he loved this child. everybody knew she was slow, but that was okay. she didn't, you know, it was okay, but as she grew older, and as she was slow, but smart enough to understand that her brothers and sisters were going out in the world, were going to dances, were going to play golf, that, you know, her brothers and sisters ten years younger could play by

a catholic institution deciding when it is catholic or not. >> there wasn't one person that went intonths pregnant with his twin boys, new year's day 2006, laurie was vomiting and couldn't breathe. he rushed her to the hospital in colorado. >> laurie looked up at me and her head went down on her chest. >> reporter: she went into full cardiac arrest from a pulmonary embolism. just 31 years old, died. and so did her 28-week along unborn twins. >> i didn't even get to hold them. i have an autopsy picture. that's all i got. >> reporter: stodghill sued the hospital and its owner which operates nearly 80 hospitals in 14 states. he filed the wrongful death suit on behalf of his wife and his unborn twin sons. in court, he was stunned to learn the hospital's defense. >> how many people does the hospital say you lost that day? >> one. since they weren't born, they weren't people. they weren't -- they did not qualify as a person. >> that's right. catholic health initiative has argued that under colorado law to be a person, one must at some point have been born alive. a glaring contradiction to c

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many who support the bill are also catholic. >> the family has always been devoutly catholic. all five children were raised for the teachings of the church, but they campaign for a comprehensive reproduction health bill. they were condemned for their actions and thrown out of religious service by a priest for being immoral. >> it saddens me to be a legitimate catholic and human being and to be called immoral, but i was not deterred. i believe my actions are for the greater good of women and children who happen to be girls. >> many of the catholic filipinos are like a gala cruise -- de la cruzes. they participate in rituals but no longer abide by everything church leaders say, particularly when it comes to social issues. >> spanish colonizers have gone to the philippines. it dominated almost all aspects of life. now church officials say the church has always survived by managing to adapt by holding fast to or belief. the catholic church has worked on reaching out, but many of them have been detached from reality. the church has conservative views on sexuality and marriage, and

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the catholic church says yes. but a lawsuit at a catholic hospital at tom as moore hospital.ection to save the twins. the man is asking the state supreme court to consider this case. colorado law says the hospital is not liable, but what does the church doctrine say? joining me now it bill donohue, president of the catholic league. a really tough one. doctrine of the church, but have you colorad law. which says that a fetus is not a human being. how do you argue that? >> well, look, the civil courts can do whatever they want. i understand what colorado law is, but the fact of the matter is, catholic church is driven by natural law. catholic church says natural law trumps the civil law. we know that life begins at concept. for the catholic church to say we'll hide under the rubric of civil law, because the lawyers say they are going to save us money, they are acting like har lots quite frankly. i hope the hospital gets stripped of its catholic status. the worst thing you can provide is scandal according to jesus to create confusion and doubt in the minds of the faithful. never

catholic organizations, we are in union with the moral teachings of the church.sn't appear to add up in this case. as a catholic organization, the hospital is supposed to follow the church's teachings laid out in the ethical and religious directives from the u.s. conference of u.s. bishops. no abortions, no contraceptives, no direct sterilizations. and it states catholic health care ministry witnesses the sanctity of life from the moment of conception until death. while the moral debate continues, so does jeremy's legal battle. after he lost in the lower court, the defense lawyers for the doctors and hospital owned by catholic health initiatives went after him for $118,000 in legal fees, garnishing his wages. he's now bankrupt and strulging to care for his daughter, 9-year-old libby, on his own. >> the tears, the pain, the heartache. still. seven years later. >> that pain is why he won't give up. he's now appealing to colorado supreme court, asking them to decide if his sons were people under the state's laws. >> will it make you feel better to get some sort of a

the catholic church, of course, says yes, but in a catholic hospital in colorado, it says no and it'sng a man who claims otherwise. hospital in colorado, it says no hospital in colorado, it says no >>> hillary clinton, gun control and immigration reform teed up to be big stories again this week. our favorite go-to guy on polls and politics -- political editor paul steinhauser, has a look at what you are thinking as we get ready for the week ahead. >> reporter: hey, miguel. the last week of january will find some top issues and a big name in the spotlight. >> our journey is not complete until we find a way to welcome the striving immigrants who still see america as a land of opportunity. >> reporter: president obama on immigration day, speaking about something high on his to-do list, immigration reform. tuesday the president goes to las vegas to give a preview of what he wants to do. what do you think about the conversion to issue is? a majority in our latest poll says allowing them to become legal residents is the top proor outer. democrats and republicans don't see eye to eye on the

catholics and catholic institutions have the duty to protect and foster human life and to witness toparticularly the unborn. catholic health initiatives, that's the group in charge of the hospital, assured us of their intention to observe the moral and ethical obligations of the catholic church. we will undertake a full review of this litigation and of the policies and practices of catholic health inish yivs to ensure fidelity and faithful witness to the teachings of the catholic church. i just don't understand because defenses don't happen overnight or like perry mason in court. >> no, they don't, they're planned out. >> they take a year or more to say, gee, this is really odd. we're going to have to take a look-see. >> i tlink's battle here. look, we have to look at the statue and see how with can best defend you and the catholic teachings would say, wait a second, we want to respect fetus's rights. >> is that officially in law called between a rock and a hard place? >> it would be called a rock and a hard place. >> and a diamond because it's worth tens of millions? >> you know wha

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and so i went to a catholic university, depaul university, and not being catholic - i was raised a baptist i had some trouble with the infallibility of the pope's concept - i couldn't buy it. i guess i was looked at with strange looks, but to me, it's just personally amazing. and i'll go a step further, still, in discussing cults. hundreds believe -y, i'm just flabbergasted. >> we will see some things in this class that are truly extraordinary, and that's a real test. i don't want to muddy the waters, if that's correctly mixing the analogies here, but there's some extraordinary things where we go and talk to these believers, far out stuff, very far out - but they're intelligent, professional people, and they're into this. it's astounding. chris, let me get to you, and then we'll have to shift gears here or i'll never get through this. >> i was just wondering, maybe religion isn't so much about god, and maybe it's more about people, and the way they perceive their surroundings and what god is to them. maybe that's what religion is all about - maybe it's about the different people. and i gue

>> of course, globally catholics look to the pope in so many ways.ecially in a time like this in the new year ahead. it is a part of being catholic, the homilies where they keep time with the year that passed. listening to those catholics in places like syria, in north africa their community has come under such a frightening strain. taxes on churches, the middle east in particular is looking to the pope as much as ever. >> that is allen johnson in rome. 60 people have been killed after being crushed during a new year's eve fireworks event in the new year's coast. as many as 200 more were injured when the crowd stampeded near a stadium in the commercial capital overnight. more of that as we get it. in an unexpected new year's message, the leader of north korea has called for an end to the confrontation between his country and south korea. he said that the two nations only have four to show for the conflict that exists between them. >> as in so many other cities, fireworks marked the start of 2013. away from the dazzling pyrotechnics, the leader of nor

i went to catholic school and-- >> okay. okay, well, i did and get this, first we had to say pledge of allegiance, which is good, but then all of us had to say the lord's prayer, our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name and the court ruled that not all students non-christian have to say a christian prayer and there's outrage just like with the tree. now you look back on it, you think of course you can't ask non-christians to say a christian prayer in public school. so, these controversies, you generate them here and they shouldn't be controversy. and the public-- >> i think two different occasions though. >> no, not at all. a christmas tree is a symbol. it's not a symbol of religion, nothing do with religion. >> this is secular building, and. >> the lord's prayer is obviously a religious expression, a christmas tree is nothing to do with-- >> everybody used to have to say it in elementary school and public schools, times change. >> you're making a comparison between the a religious prayer and a secular symbol, does

i went to catholic school and-- >> okay.kay, well, i did and get this, first we had to say pledge of allegiance, which is good, but then all of us had to say the lord's prayer, our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name and the court ruled that not all students non-christian have to say a christian prayer and there's outrage just like with the tree. now you look back on it, you think of course you can't ask non-christians to say a christian prayer in public school. so, these controversies, you generate them here and they shouldn't be controversy. and the public-- >> i think two different occasions though. >> no, not at all. a christmas tree is a symbol. it's not a symbol of religion, nothing do with religion. >> this is secular building, and. >> the lord's prayer is obviously a religious expression, a christmas tree is nothing to do with-- >> everybody used to have to say it in elementary school and public schools, times change. >> you're making a comparison between the a religious prayer and a secular symbol, doesn'

information about cases in other catholic institutions soon emerged. the church responded by hiring a respected investigator to document the full extent of the abuse. initially, a german church diocese offered cooperation, but that support soon faded. >> first, there was resistance in munich. then in rig it's a bird. it became clear they wanted more control for the church. >> the investigator accuses the church of censorship, claiming that officials want to control the study's findings. the church has spoken only of a breach of trust with the investigator. it says it will look for a replacement to continue the project. >> the diocese has already -- always been ready to help with this kind of project. we have said we are prepared to cooperate. that has not changed. >> the german catholic church has always said it wants to know exactly how widespread the sexual abuse of minors was in its institution, but it appears this dispute could delay a final report by years. >> for the first time in the course of the syrian civil war, the two sides have treated pri

information about cases in other catholic institutions soon emerged. the church responded by hiring a respected investigator to document the full extent of the abuse. initially, a german church diocese offered cooperation, but that support soon faded. >> first, there was resistance in munich. then in rig it's a bird. it became clear they wanted more control for the church. >> the investigator accuses the church of censorship,laing that officials want to contro th sdy's the chuh has spoken only of a brchf trt with the investigator. it says itl lo for a replacement to continue the project. >> the diocese has already -- always been ready to help with this kind of project. we have said we are prepared to cooperate. that has not changed. >> the german catholic church has always said it wants to know exactly how widespread the sexual abuse of minors was in its institution, but it appears this dispute could delay a final report by years. >> for the first time in the course of the syrian civil war, the two sides have treated prisoners on a large scale. the reb

to our catholic represents, we can share the shared faith view. the president made it abundantly clear,, it is not just a faith view. it is a constitutional view, also. so with representatives who don't share our same faith what we're going to do is engage in conversation about the competing demands of the constitution. the fact is our rights to a peaceful assembly, our right to exercise our faith in houses of worship, the capacity for free expression are all being challenged by these guns that are so rampant and in the hands of few folks that create such havoc, such distress. that when you have competing constitutional demands is one argument. the other is just from sharing a shared faith that we argue the principles of life and what we share in our faith. >> john: well, you know, millions of progressive christians muslims jews, atheists hindus, are routinely appalled to see self-professed christian leaders fighting so hard to protect the right of easy access to weapons that are designed to kill lots of people really fast. how should the church r

or what are catholic democrats supposeddon. >> the catholic byrneses are in a lunch.hey lost this election. that has to be abundantly clear >> bill: they opposed obama and lost the election. >> i was at the prayer service yesterday with the president, and the cardinal was there. i was glad that i was there. this president of our country for the next four years. i think the bishop is going to have to realize that the democrats are the game in town right now. they have to play nice if they want to get anything done. hopefully immigration will be a great way to prove that. but again, i am still a little bit worried. i also want to say, you know, the administration misstepped, remember, when they announced benedict -- a pastor who was to give the benediction who had some comments he had made about lgbt folks that was offensive. this is something the administration needs to get better on, in terms of vetting their speakers. and it's high time for evangelicals and catholics to come out and say with the president, that we don't tolerate bigotrynym in the 21st century >> bill

that'ss, what i was coming to you next to say to you when you look at catholics, hispanics strongly catholics't put it in vivid terms so they would respond to that. >> no. >> bill: all right, mary katharine you say. >> i think you are on target on a bunch of this. we have i reached a turning point of sorts. that doesn't mean that folks who believe whatd romney believes or believe in general to the right of center as juan was pointing out many people still do that that can't result in electoral victory in the future. i think you are correct that it takes a special person. i think it took a special person in barack obama to bring theta left to where it is right now. i'm frankly surprised it got here. and it will takeba somebody who really connects with people who is charismatic and smart and takes this message to people in a smart way where you are not demonizing anybody and i reject the notion that i or i or bill or anyone else is doing that in explicit ways. you have to cross these cultural barriers and talk in a way that's smart and reach folks. that was part of what was missing. >> bill: ta

the catholic health initiative mounted a stunning defense that contradicts the catholic church's teachingsat conception. the hospital argued under colorado law, the person at one point must have been born alive. >> i would find that hypocritical anywhere. there wasn't one person who went into that e.r. there were three. >> the archdiocese of denver said they would not comment on ongoing disputes but appeared to back pedal from the hospital's stance saying we will undertake a full review of this litigation and as the policies of catholic health initiatives to insure fidelity and faithful and witnesses to the teaching of the catholic church. >> in the meantime, stodghill is now bankrupt after being socked with the legal fees of the hospital. he won't give up. he wants the state's highest court to weigh in on his case. he's appealing to the colorado supreme court, asking them if his sons were people under state law. >> the pain eases with time, but it never goes away. you'll always love them. >> heather was at the capital in denver today where she fought for a law to insure that all unborn vi

there will be avenged at other catholic schools across the area as catholics schools week -- events andics schools across the area as captive schools week continues. >> the day started off with some snow and freezing rain. now it is just scattered light rain showers. the latest batch of rain is moving south and east of baltimore. not going to be raining all night, although a few drops here and there. if you are traveling up 95, does it wintry as to get north of boston. to the south of us, it is scattered rain showers and milder air. that will be the theme of this next couple of days. high temperatures today, it is pretty much where we are right now. the morning started below freezing at the 30 and that is what caused the problems. it is 36 all the way up to southern pennsylvania. no i see problems anticipated this evening. -- icy problems anticipated this evening. a warm-up is on the way. lower temperatures tonight about where we are, on those west- southwest breeze is at 5 miles per hour. clouds and fog son down at 5:23. -- sunday at 5:23. 46 degrees in chicago. 74 in new orleans right

during fdr's time, there was a catholic. there have been jewish leaders, greek orthodox leaders in the past who have done it. >> and the inauguration itself is always such a reminder of the intertwining of religion and government, the language, so many references to god, especially in the music. >> reporter: the civil religion, america's civil religion, is always at the forefront, what people call this idea, also people call american exceptionalism, that god has some kind of special, chosen place for america. president obama, i thought, in his inaugural address also really harkened to that when he talked about this creed that we have, a national creed based on the declaration of independence -- life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. it was interesting this time around, a lot of religious conservatives talk about god has chosen us as a people, but to have a liberal put god with that liberal agenda was something interesting. >> many thanks, kim. >>> advocates on both sides of the abortion debate held events in washington

francis cardinal george is making a very hot topic in catholic churches as well he wants parishioners to track down the local law makers to make sure that cybill unions do not come to illinois. the church is weighing in with no time to waste. pastor's published in this letter in the sunday bulletin cardinal george encourage people to stop the civil union movement the cardinal once catholic followers and people like state senator heather's dane who is behind the bill. it makes sure that all people are treated the same under our law, civil rights advocate anthony martinez is 100 percent behind the fair marriage act a brave step for marriage. to be able to afford that relationship recognition to couples that have been in relationships for decades in the letter from the archdiocese cardinal georgia and others vehemently opposes changing laws and he says marriage comes to us from nature. the state has no power to create something that nature itself tells us is impossible. tonight catholics leading holy name cathedral some of them are deciding what their role will be now that the church is

they do ask, are you catholic. they have an affirmative action program for catholics. you are more likely to be hired. it is hard because it is a jesuit school. they are the liberal theological branch of catholicism. they are much more open. they have chaplains for other faith there. it even has a gay and lesbian center. at georgetown. that's not something you typically find that a catholic university. >> go back to the statistic about 17 and 20 philosophers are atheists. why do think that is? what starts first? your interest in philosophy that leads you to atheism or vice versa? >> i wonder about that. is it a treatment or selection effect? they serve a graduate students as well as those who complete their ph.d.. graduate students as a whole right now or more religious as people who have faculty jobs. that is not necessary indicate they become atheistic overtime. it could just mean we have a large group of atheist foster's in the past and they are more religious than they had been. in philosophy, i tend to think there is an anti religious attitude. most people do not

because he was an irish catholic, and their eyes, not harvard graduate, but an irish catholic boy fromeast boston. so he made his own way. he had to make his own way. and he developed his own contacts. the one area, the boone area in the economy of boston and the united states at that great of time was one, the yankee bankers of boston, and new york to lesser extent, were paying the attention to come and that was still the moving pictures. they thought it was a fat is going to go with a y. in money in it? at kennedy do better. and because nobody else was paying attention, he got into film. and using a local bank as his page bank, a local bank that his father had helped start in east boston trust company, key, and using his friends, he raised enough money to make a bid on a failing film company. he found his way to hollywood, and in hollywood made it big. why? because he learned how to make his being an outsider into an advantage. he arrived in hollywood as another kind of an outsider, a christian. and he said over and over again from the moment he arrived in hollywood, i am the all-ame

a catholic hospital says life begins at birth, not conception. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening. everyone. i'm erin burnett. happy monday. "outfront" tonight, bigs are flying. tonight, there is bipartisan efforts. pigs are flying, and it's a gorgeous sight. they thought they had an ice storm, but it's really pigs. what has caused them to take to the sky, you ask? immigration. a gang of senators unveiled a new immigration reform plan today, and this is pretty amazing. you have marco rubio on the same page as chuck schumer. yes, we told you pigs are in the air, and senator schumer has high hopes for this proposal. >> we believe this will be the year congress finally gets it done. the politics on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there's more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> but like everything else in washington, not everyone is on board. take republican senator mike lee. he quickly issued this statement in opposition to the gang's plan. here's what he said. reforms to our

i see you coming from a similar background as me growing up catholic i'm not so catholic anymore but there is something that i had with you about that in some way in my mind that has gotten me caught up with how i admire and respect you so much and come out @you at the same time and so i want to saw thank you for your work and i appreciate the time that you are going to have moving forward with your family and it's exceptional and it's something that you valid and i valid my work as a parent on the board of supervisors and i look forward to seeing what you are doing in the future best of luck. >> supervisor elsburnd? the floor is yours common and both microphones.. >> well thank you. thank you to all of you for your kind words. geez i remember my first board meeting over there, i cried, and then my last board meeting better keep keep this quick first i couldn't not be here with the the voter and is district senate. thank you to them, my staff, john gavin who worked like a crow my maternity three system carey black stone and -- the last four years alex and of course, i brought my own

village in france has discovered that this can certainly be a delicate issue. >> there's a small catholic community in the heart of france that has too little money and too many churches. the church of the holy virgin is located in historic town center. a few hundred meters away stands the church of st. john the baptist. a few blocks away, we find st. john's a listing where there has been no resident church for ages. and then there's the church of saint aloysius. >> we have six churches here in all, but the number of residents as gone from 35,000 to 27,000, and the number of practicing catholics has sharply declined in the last three decades. this church was consecrated in 1955, but we do not need it anymore, so we want to sell it. >> they found a prospective buyer right away -- the local muslim community needed a place to worship. they have plenty of members. right now, they pray in a 1- family house that is billed to the brim. it is not just the old immigrants who work in the factories that come here. they are joined by their children and grandchildren. few want to be interviewed. buyin

village in france has discovered that this can certainly be a delicate issue. >> there's a small catholic community in the heart of france that has too little money and too many churches. the church of the holy virgin is located in historic town center. a few hundred meters away stands the church of st. john the baptist. a few ocks away, we find st. john's a listing where there has been no resident church for ages. and then there's the church of saint aloysius. >> we have six churches here in all, but the number of residents as gone from 35,000 to 27,000, and the number of practicing catholics has sharply declined in the last three decades. this church was consecrated in 1955, but we do not need it anymore, so we want to sell it. >> they found a prospective buyer right away -- the local muslim community needed a place to worship. they have plenty of members. right now, they pray in a 1- family house that is billed to the brim. it is not just the old immigrants who work in the factories that come here. they are joined by their children and grandchildren. few want to be interviewed. buying