catholic nurses those who support catholic hospitals to act against the teachings of their faith thenou'll see exactly how much my work has done you know the health care field. ok you would not abide by a jehovah's witness doctor saying scott i'm not going to save your baby he's going to bleed out because i will not transfuse him with blood you want to abide by it and no one else would but because it's only women who are told well let her die there's a heartbeat in that fetus and she's and she's going on because that's the only women but there are you know jimmy. and mary wrote and i really don't understand and and i do know a little bit about women and children and the care that they should and very well received at catholic hospitals do deserve absolutely now here's the thing give the standard of care it's that simple catholic hospitals must give the standard of care of the world looked at ireland and said how dare you let that that doctor die that's that's unconscionable but here in arizona we saw where a catholic hospital a nurse decided it is better to abort a pregnancy that cann

waj, catholic or not pope francis is all the buzz now. >> i'm not catholic, but i went to an all boy's jess wit high school, bellarmine. we have oswald, says he is the hope i have been waiting for. chris on twitter thinks the pope thinks aids is bad, the dogma is old , #yan. we have a different pope and that's it. >> accusing the pope of doing branding. we're going to get into it. what is the pope francis effect? from rome to rio de janeiro, what is the buzz? however his softened language on hot button issues have some evaluating his political impact. joining us to take a closer look at the pope francis effect is father john guthrie, a member of the clergy for more than 20 years. sister jean grenick, she has been vocal on lgbt issues, a move that got her sanctioned by the church. and he penned an article, what can sarah palin and the gop can learn from pope francis. a four decade low, lack of interest what do you think is the reason for that? >> well i think institutional religion across the board has suffered in recent decades. but i think what's amazing and inspiring about this new p

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the irish catholics in many ways faced a type of prejudice that german catholics and some other catholics did not face at least at that time. or even later. so for instance in the return of the middle of the 19th century with increasing notions of racism coming to a head in the united states and being quite acceptable in many ways, irish catholics were portrayed as being apelike and being of a different race in many ways. and so, that is not something that german catholics struggle with to my knowledge or italian catholics. so i do think and this is an important part of the book, many of these issues of religious intolerance are not just about religion. there is also as the city. there is race. there is gender. there is class. those issues commonly figure into these episodes of intolerance. >> host: and, so just to bring back to today, we have a group of americans, i think you could say fairly largely religious conservative catholics and not just catholics who feel that their place is being squeezed in our society. obviously people are familiar with the term war on religion and there is a

and the irish catholic, in many ways face a type of prejudice that german catholics and other catholics did not face. at least at that time. increasing motion of racism come to head to the united states and sipble in many ways. irish catholicses were portrayed as being ape like and being of a different race in many ways. and so that is not something that german catholics struggle with, to my knowledge. or italian catholics. i think it's important in the book that many are not just about religion. race, gender, they figure to the episodes. >> host: just take to a little bit to today. you know, we have a group of americans i think you can say fairly largely religious conservative who feel their place is being squeezed in our society. obviously, you know, some people are familiar with the term calling it a war on religion and there's a challenge, you know, to religion placed in the more diverse more secular society. what do you think about the sentiment. whether it's gay marriage or health care reform man dates coverage of things that some people find religiously feel opposed to. what go y

this is francis' first christmas as leader of the world's catholics.erson has a special look now at the path he took to get here. >> reporter: francis' journey to the papacy goes back to 1969 when he was ordained as a jesuit priest in argentina where he was born. he became archbishop in 199 and ultimately pope. his service was hallmark and humility. three years later in 2001, pope john paul ii appointed him a cardinal. and after more than a decade on march 13th it, 2013, he was elected to lead the world's estimated 1.2 billion catholics and installed as pope six days later. >> and this is the greatest of the man i think that he is, that he knows who he is. he knows what his responsibility is. >> cardinal theodore mccarrick is the former archbishop of washington, d.c. a church insider who says that francis is handling his job well. >> it doesn't because he's knows he's going to carry it with jesus and he knows the people are out there and his job is to help them. >> becoming pope was only one of many significant firsts for the new pontiff. >> he is the

i'm from a catholic family and although i didn't experience any persecution as a catholic history indicated how there's been antagonism towards catholics in various ways and there's also a jewish part of my family as well sensitive to those issues as well. but more particularly personally was the realization that life was carrying around some of the islamophobia and muslim ideas myself and it really came home to me as i really than the book i was having a conversation with my friend, steve, who was studying the middle eastern studies and had family link in the middle east themselves. i made a comment. i can't remember what the comment was, but he said it did you hear yourself, the comment that you need is a stereotype about muslims. and he was right. but i needed him to kind of call me out on that in order for me to see it to kind of pull it off and put it in front of me so i could get past that. so i'm interested in the ways people carry their prejudice because i don't think a lot of people think the racism, sexism and the anti-semitism people carry is only used as incubated with the delib

, a 90% catholic country.ny ways a surprise. because as that law was being debated, the catholic church and argentina through its full moral and political weight into fighting it. no one more fiercely, loudly, or stridently than the archbishop of buenos aires. this is no mere legislative bill, he warned. it is a move by the father of lies to confuse and deceive the children of god. you may know that archbishop by a different name today. pope francis. and in 2010, he was cardinal jorge brugolio and he was the enemy. here is what the president of argentina, the woman leading the charge for gay marriage had to say about he and his fellow church leaders back then. >> the cultural conservatism that we tend to identify with the catholic church, the pope embodied it as well as anyone back in argentina. we aren't in agreement with the death penalty, he said in 2007, but in argentina we have the death penalty, a child conceived by the rape of a mentally ill or retarded woman can be condemned to death. cardinal became p

a slap in the face to catholic. americans.nd former florida governor jeb bush tweeted, quote, why would our president close our embassy to the vatican? hopefully it is not retribution for catholic organizations opposing obama care. to be clear, the vatican embassy is not closing, never was going to close. it's moving to a new location that is ironically actually 1/10 mile closer to the vatican than the old building. while republicans are rejecting the vatican has it at all. thank you, both. i first heard this i was out in san francisco with my wife's family, and i hear, oh did you hear they're closing the vatican embassy? responds to, didn't even check the facts, just went with without source, fox, i don't know who it was. he says, is this just the derangement syndrome that everything the obama administration does it's another winston churchill bust that's been thrown out the window? >> well, most, but not all of the criticism is coming from the right. i mean, ray flynn was also among those who has been critical. >> who did he

its impact is felt by catholics and non-catholics alike. is a huge service provider. in the united states the bishops use their money and their mights to advocate for good and for bad. >> bill, the last word we'll quick. i'm sorry, kate. didn't mean to cut you off. >> it does matter what's jews think and they are happy with people with no faith at all. while it's of particular concern to catholics she the head of the state, the holy sea, as a member of the u.n. >> merry christmas to you both. thank you both for coming in today. >> "market call." >> "market call." >>> one of the giants of film passed away. lacking back at some of peter o'toole's life, next. and into rich interior accents. or putting the beauty of a forest in the palm of your hands... it will take you to another place... wherever you happen to be. this is the new 2014 jeep grand cherokee. it is the best of what we're made of. well-qualified lessees can lease the 2014 grand cherokee laredo 4x4 for $359 a month. ♪ ♪ nothing says, "you're my #1 copilot," like a milk-bone biscuit

in one a car bomb went off near a catholic church during mass. shortly before that, a bomb ripped through an outdoor market in a catholic section of the city. near 60 people are being treated for injuries. so far, there's no claim of responsibility. but iraq's catholic community has recently been targeted by al qaeda and other insurgents. >>> some developing news from the south sudan where tens of thousands of people have fled their homes to find safe shelters at united nations camps. meanwhile, the violence is getting worse between government troops loyal to the country's president and rebels who support a former vice president. united nations security council voted unanimously yesterday to beef up their forces in the region. >> our military resources are now without the -- with the exception of the patrols in juba, are fully engulfed and occupied with the protection of our bases. and even that is not adequate everywhere. >> secretary of state john kerry talked with leaders of both sides yesterday. the rebel leaders indicated he is ready for pea

and thanks to the legal support of the catholic church. many peace activists and human rights campaigners believe it is a dangerous alliance. they have launched a counter campaign seeking to mimic the influence of the church, which they fear could help rye grass and the european union's newest member. the nation is divided. >> catholic church is very strong in croatia, and as we could see before they endorsed this organization and this referendum, and i think that we can expect that they will do similar things in the future to reinforce their position. >> it affects many issues in the society -- the church has campaigned actively against sex education in schools, for example. many believe more referendums could now follow on issues such as abortion and the role of women. working through social networks, campaign groups are seeking to put across their alternative agenda. this woman believes the dispute over values has only just begun. for weeks now, she has been following the debate on the internet. she is a single parent mother with two ch

the republicans see the pope potentially as bringing parts of the catholic church and catholic politicsessive economic agenda. >> how dangerous. now, jonathan, i have something i want to play for you that rush limbaugh said. i just want you to take a deep breath. we're going to take a listen. >> this is the president citing the pope. his new best friend. because the pope is ripping america. the pope is ripping capitalism. the pope, ripping ronaldus magnus. the pope ripping trickle down economics. obama is having an orgasm. >> i'm sorry? what? what? >> i can't even dignify rush limbaugh and what he said about the pope, about the president. look, these guys, to pick up on what david was just talking about, they're upset, yes, about the pope's economic argument. but they're also upset about the pope saying, you know what? we shouldn't obsess over abortion. we shouldn't obsess over gays and lesbian. we shouldn't obsess over these social issues that get in the way of people of faith coming into the church. so the republicans are saying they have a problem with the leader of the catholic chur

leader of the catholic church.mong all americans, the pope enjoys a 72% favorable rating, a number that would make any american politician jealous. >> people feel he's a breath of fresh air and there's a newness in the church. >> dear brothers and sisters -- >> reporter: from his first humble words after being elected, the pope has sought to address the issue of wealth and poverty through words and his own doings, turn down the papal apartments for more modest quarters, ditching the vatican's luxury fleet, and even carried his own luggage. americans approve of this pope of the people. 65% approve of his comments on capitalism and the effects of a free market economy on the poor. 27% disapprove. he has been unafraid to confront social issues such as homosexuality. >> translator: if a person is gay and accepts the lord and has good will, who am i to judge them? >> reporter: the pope saying the church is too consumed with gay marriage, contraception and abortion. americans polled tend to agree with his positions. only

catholics and non-catholics alike. he has been a voice for many people around the world, and that's exciting. >> he's saying things people can hear but that do challenge a lot of social doctrine and conservative doctrine and are sort of in your face in the sense of inequality, the sense of poverty, in the sense of challenging capitalism. >> exactly. what's so interesting to me about this pope is that basically what he's talking about is traditional catholic doctrine, about poverty. when you have rush limbaugh saying this is marxist and everybody confusing him with socialism, i laugh because the problem has been what we've heard from the conference of catholic bishops is nothing but protestant evangelical doctrines about what not to do with your body and we haven't talked about what we're going to do with people's souls and their everyday lives. that's what makes pope francis different. >> that is the reality, that he is causing discomfort by challenging. i mean, you had the u.s. conference of bishops as paul was mentio

>> on politicians or on catholics?ll, on the public debates, on the political debates in this country around these issues. >> i will tell you this. i would say for committed catholics, and thanks be to god there is a lot of them. i love them, i'm grateful for them this thanksgiving weekend, they would say what pope francis has done is reminded us of the latitude of catholic believes and catholic principles. those who would try to closet us, maybe, and just in what you might call below the belt issues be that gay marriage or abortion or prostitution. that's important and the teaching on that is unwavering. but pope francis has said wait we forgive, the way we help the poor, the way we reach out to the sick, fort gthe forgotten, on the side of the road, that is as strong an imperative as anything else. >> what about obama care? you have voiced your displeasure with certain aspects of it in terms of man dates for hospitits and so forth. what about the overall goal of it? do you think it will ultimately prevail? would you

with a pope like francis, catholics the world over are celebrating the rebirth of the catholic churchole. nbc news, rome. >>> that's "nbc nightly news" for this sun. stay tuned for football night in america following the new york giants and washington. i'm lester holt reporting from new york for all of us here at nbc news. goonlt. [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, we've always been on the forefront of innovation. when the world called for speed... ♪ ...when the world called for stealth... ♪ ...intelligence... endurance... affordability... adaptability... and when the world asked for the future. staying ahead in a constantly evolving world. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. . >>> a mild 43 degrees and winds are calm at fedex field in landover, maryland, where on this first night of december, "sunday night football" features two long time nfc reef aa arivas washington hosts the giants. the lineup for robert griffin, iii is a disappointment. he did make it back from major

. >> the catholic church wins a victrow against obama air. will the birth control man date be scrapped from the law once and for all? . ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. (applause) >> thank you very much. welcome to huckabee from the fox news studios and happy now year everybody. 2013 started with followers of president obama feeling like they were the world. there was a confidence and arrogance in winning the 20 authority 12 elections and a new level of partisanship. the president skated past questions of benghazi. and his pals would not throw him accountable. and cony capitalism and showered with taxpayer money and a world falling apart in the seams. by the ep of the year, approval ratings would be nearing those of richard nixon and the democratic party would so a rush and rather quick than face voers over the train wreck and legislative achievement. it was the screwing up for the health care insurance for the people who had it and precious little that didn't. questions about benghazi and answers are elusive. the count row found

were embarrassed to be catholic.ut now this pope in their words and some of your colleagues said this, bobby, in a sense, they are bringing some catholics out of the shadows and who are embracing this message of ininclusion from the pope. are you hearing the same thing? >> i absolutely him. there's a balance here, not that one pope only talks about judgment and this pope talks about mercy. it's getting the right balance. most people do know what the church teaches on all issues and it shouldn't be a great surprise that christians are for mercy and not judging people. that's supposed to be part of the christian message but it can be revolutionary because jesus was a revolutionary. we should be very happy. catholics and not catholics as elton john said, pope francis is just a miracle of humility in a sea of vanity. >> the reaction not just from catholics but everyone you've heard so far, your twitter handles and facebook lighting up. what's the reaction? >> he's been able to reach out beyond the catholic world. i think

this >> what is it like to be a divorced and remarried catholic?hat is it like to live according to the church's teachings on birth control? >> reporter: do you think the church is really interested in hearing those answers? the >> i think he is. i think the church doesn't know how to interpret them, but he has told us he should be willing to listen and engage. what is the most revolutionary thing to me? it is precisely that. when you look at it that way, then you end up saying things like whom am i to judge? then you end up saying things like i want to engage with divorced and remarried catholics belong. >> joining us now to continue our discussion is cardinal theodore mccaric, the retired archbishop of washington, d.c. so many people have been talking about pope francis. in your perspective, though, has the pope's greatest impact been on doctriner or perhaps the image of the papacy? >> i think you could probably make a case for both. there is nothing that he has taught or preached that does not fit into catholic doctrine. obviously he is the prop

with a pope like francis, catholics the world over are celebrating the rebirth of the catholic churchole. nbc news, rome. >>> that's "nbc nightly news" for this sun. stay tuned for football night in america following the new york giants and washington. i'm lester holt reporting from new york for all of us here at nbc news. goonlt. . >>> a mild 43 degrees and winds are calm at fedex field in landover, maryland, where on this first night of december, "sunday night football" features two long time nfc reef aa arivas washington hosts the giants. the lineup for robert griffin, iii is a disappointment. he did make it back from major knee surgery but not at the same dynamic level. eli manning and the giants started miserably losing their

also francis the first is the most progressive open generation so how are conservative american catholics reacting to the man some people are calling the pope of the poor and today's republican party resembles a group of street thugs more than it does the party of barry goldwater i'll tell you why and how i deal with. getting you know this there's a lot of news today but there is one consistent thread that runs through it all and that's the republican agenda to make america a poorer and more violent country although it's now been almost two years since the newtown massacre the gun control movement is still fighting an uphill battle one hundred nine done different gun laws have been passed by state legislatures across the country since december fourteenth two thousand and twelve. thirty nine of them have tightened gun restrictions and made it harder for people like the newtown killer to get weapons of war but seventy of those hundred nine laws have loosened gun restrictions and of those seventy four actually seek to nullify federal gun laws or the hope for gun control on a national level f

and thanks to legal support to the catholic church. the ma the peace activists and human rights campaigners believe it's a dangerous alliance. it launched a counter campaign seeking to limit the influence of the church which need to include all progress in the european union's newest member the nation is defined. he has shown in place. and as we could see the forty dollars that the flu the sun in the states and the fifth and don't. and i think that so we can expect it to the villa it to seem like the disputes that to lead the youth was there with these. many issues in society. richard has campaigned actively against education in schools for example. many believe more referendums can now follow on issues such as abortion and the role of women. working through social networks campaign groups are seeking to put across their alternative agenda. well you know nobody leaves the dispute over values has only just begun. for weeks no she's been following the debate on the internet she's a single parent mother was two children. it's seven am to

this is catholic social teaching he is espousing.t is certainly not marxism or an attack on capitolism per se. this has been the church's teaching since leo the 13th. >> we have a social media question for you, father. >> father, we asked our viewer is pope francis moving the catholic church in a new direction? viewer stanley responded, not in a new direction. he is moving the church back to where it should have been the whole time. do you agree? >> i think the church has always been there. but i think he is trying to sort of put it front and center. i think he is trying to remind us that the church has always been there. i spent two years in east africa, working with refugees in the 1990s. so it's not as if the church has suddenly discovered his commitment to the pour. but pope francis is trying to remind us of what has always been there. >> do you think he will be a transformtive pope? u.s.? >> i think he already is transforming things. i think just the fact that people are delighted with him, and people come up to me and say they

his remarks and actions have captivated catholics and non- catholics around the world, whether washing feet of prisoners on holy thursday or, when asked about the status of gays and lesbians in the church, telling reporters, "who am i to judge" or decrying the problems of economic inequality. the ripple effect has been remarkable. we assess his impact with patricia mcguire, president of trinity washington university and robert royal, president of the faith and reason institute. welcome to you both. let's start av with that, who am i to judge question, because that struck me, some people could have said, if not the pope, who. is that what caught your attention? >> that absolutely caught my attention. it caught the attention of catholics every where. and i think the people of the world. and it parallels what he said in his america interview when he was asked who are you. and he said i am a sinner was the first way he described himself. he's very humble. he does not assume to have the power of an office that makes him better than everyone else. he is a real human being. and i think that's

where theplace tension between the catholic faith and the communist state is palpable.or almost 18 months, this nearby seminary has been used for the house arrest of the missing bishop. is a good man, this woman tells me. her friend stops her. seen as a direct challenge to the communist hisy, the bishop used ordination speech to resign from the government body in charge of the church. it was met with loud applause, but he has not been seen in public since. ironically, china's control of the church means the atheist spate -- state reserves the right to appoint and dismiss bishops. his ordination has now been revoked. to see the allowed bishop but friends of his told us he is allowed to come and go from the seminary but not to leave the shanghai area. they said he has been sent a communistlesson, indoctrination, three times a week. once again, chinese catholics will be celebrating christmas aware of a crisis at the heart of their church. although once thought to be improving, it shows the risk between beijing and rome runs deep. >> now force boats and the england cricket

why is it important in particular to your flock, to catholics, that this get done? >> this particular issue is one that's very close to the heart for catholics, though, because -- well, just about all of us are immigrants in this country, but that experience is much more recent with catholics. just about all of us are either from those who emigrated from southern or eastern europe 100 years ago or those who recently emigrated from latin america or asia. so it's an experience very close to us. we know people caught in the situation. there's also the sense, a spiritual sense, in that our church has always been multicultural from the very beginning for 2,000 years. so we understand living together with different cultures and how we can live together and enrich each other. and there's even a deeper spiritual sense that it would say immigration is sort of a metaphor for who we understand ourselves to be spiritually. we as believers are not at home here. we're on a pilgrimage. we're immigrants trying to emigrate to our homeland of heaven. there are deep spiritual reasons

. >>> and the catholic church wins a court victory against obamacare. will 2014 be the year the bridge control mandate is scrapped from the health care law once and for all. >>> ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. >> wow! [ applause ] >> thank you to huckabee at the fox news studios. and 2013 started with followers of president obama feeling like they were the world. there was a confidence, even an arrogance over winning the 2012 elections and it transferred into a new level of partisanship. he was cocky thinking his pals in the press would never hold him accountable for a dread physical economy, jobless, cronyism with billions in taxpayer money and a world falling apart at the seems without any -- at the seams without leadership from the white house. who could have imagined by the end of the year his approvalings would near those at the richard nixon at the height of watergate and his own democratic party would see a rush to the exits for members of congress who would rather quit than face the train wreck of his major legislative achievement,

his 50 minutes of right wing fame came back in 2004 when he said he would deny communion to catholicns like john kerry -- >> a few church leaders say kerry should be denied communion because of views that contradict the church. >> when people are publicly sending in other words publicly acting contrary to fundamental teaching of the faith, then i'm required also to take an action with them. >> if cardinal burk is the kind of catholic the american right can really get behind, pope francis is turning out to be the opposite, not surprisingly, becoming a world renowned embodiment of -- pope francis with an increasingly irate audience in conservative media. >> i thought the pope was very much in favor of the european social model which fails it's own people. >> when the pope says it is the obligation of the government to take from the rich and give to the poor because that's the only way to alleviate poverty, he doesn't know what he's talking about. >> he makes me a little concerned on his marxist tendencies. >> there's no such unfettered capitalism that doesn't exist anywhere. >> pope fr

so you had said, we are catholic protestant, secularist, whatever. on the other hand, you are also arguing that we are all inheritors of the reformation in some way. toby out on the diversity of who we are today with is the fact that we all are somehow -- >> right question. i did think it is possible to answer that. we are all effected by the consequences, long-term consequences of the reformation era love -- whether we like and not regardless of what we individually might affirm or how we live with in a hyper pluralism in so far, for example, as we all live within western liberal political restitution. everyone who lives in a western country lives in this kind of structure with the variations, the belgian, the u.s. is the case may be, we also all live within capitalist market economies that are part of an interconnected global market network regardless, even the people who live in the most intentional, i want to get off the grave, let's go have a commune in rural missouri -- they have to interact with those markets in some ways. in that sense we all

. >> host: the -- did you visit with the catholic church as well? >> guest: i did not spend a lot of time focusing on the catholic church, and here's what happened. as a reporter i can only write about the stories of people willing to talk to me. i spent a lot of time trying to find a gay priest who is willing to open a. i think the price of that because i never was able to find one was that catholics are underrepresented in my book to the really funny thing about this is my husband is catholic and i never thought to ask him for his story until after the book went to press the so that was kind of a failed on my part post back jeff chu, there's a denomination called mcc, our metropolitan community church, which is a so called gay church. if you visit with him and what did you find? >> guest: i visited one in san francisco and one in las vegas. but beautiful thing about the mcc is that it is a spiritual home for a lot of people who want still to hang on to church. but don't feel comfortable in regular churches. it was founded by a guy who grew up pent

he changed the conversation about the catholic church. he changed the focus of the church from passing judgment to offering service. he changed the perception of the church from being this out of touch institution to one that is humble, that is welcoming. sort of goings by back to the roots of the faith and talking about the poor, reaching out to them, offering more transparency. up manyrently, giving of the trappings of his high office. not simply to out 1.2 billion catholics, large though that number is, but using modern communication tools and his charisma, and has been able to include many who are not catholics in the discussion about what the right way to approach property is in our time. and what economics we should be talking about. that you honort somebody and you're looking at the global context, and you don't want the popes reached to just be toward catholics because there are many around the world who are not catholics. about the debate of growing inequality in the west? was that behind the choice of pope francis? >> not just i