if you are catholic, this is the bitter cross.o when you see a penalty emerge, of course you are captivated whether you are catholic or not. his first year was ink inspirational. and also i think very encouraged to see faithful adherence to what has been long standing teaching and so when you see i think is someone beautifully different, and beautifully consistent with what the church teaches and i think people are just getting to know him. when you think about this, nobody has heard about this man outside of an too large that, i am taking a group to rome, and you can't imagine the excitement. waiting to see, what is it you are waiting to see. >> i 30 the first year has displayed in pope francis a really beautiful sense of integrity. what he has called the church to, what he has called each of us to, he has demonstrated in many ways. and is simplicity of the way he is living and reaching out to different groups in such a warm way i think that we are now waiting to see what will be the truth of the changes that he is making some of

first of all, 99% of italians were catholic. only a third of germans were catholic. secondly the pope is seen as italian. so the potential influence the pope had in denouncing mussolini and especially, and here's the real rub, mussolini is in this very difficult spot. he wants to make this alliance with nazi germany but italians hate the germans. they just had gone to war with them. so they had hundred of thousands of dead at the hands of the germans not all that long before. plus, hitler is not a sympathetic figure to the italians. he is announcing aryan supremacy and italians have a pretty good idea that doesn't include them. so in mussolini trying to convince italians to get on board with this alliance with nazi germany he has a challenge. and that is why, if the pope had clearly spoken out against this, said, that no good catholic could follow, could embrace hitler, i think it would, i don't know what impact it would have had on germany but i think it would have had a big impact on italy. so if the pope were younger and more vigorous, not in, not in a position to

>> guest: i teach catholic theology. a range of course, the course related to this book is called "political theology." so i think a lot about the relation between the church and the state, its historical relationship and theological and political importance for our thinking today. >> host: let's start toward the end of the book, which is, is democracy connected to christianity? >> guest: at the end of the book i explore the idea of democracy's restless desire, call it. why does democracy have this inherent sort of sense of progress? what is it going for? does democracy have an end? what is the ultimate aim of democracy? and i connect this idea to what theologians talk about is our natural desire for god. all human beings have this restlessness. the heart's restless and -- i asked the question, could that be true of politics, too? that democratic restlessness, certain sort of desire for hoytal progress, does that also -- historical process, does that have a restlessness built into it? and is god the end of that? so i ask

of catholics.is true that a lot of catholics disagree with the pope on those issues. but on the central issues of the christian faith, the resurrection, jesus christ, the gospel, american catholics are right with the pope and that's why you see his ratings so high. i think it's something that president obama would surely want. >> it's interesting, because now you do have these fights over the contraception mandate in health care, which is really the first time you've seen under this pope, kind of a clash in terms of politics domestically, whereas before, you know, there was this feature of catholic politics where you had people saying so and so should be denied communion because of their views on x. it is a different vibe, right? even the fight over contraception. >> i think it is. and the pope ihimself in an article for "america" magazine said he believed the church was too focused on those things, abortion, same-sex marriage, contraception, and he said he wanted to move the catholic church to a b

catholics or american catholics. especially from hispanic catholics. that was a big demographic in his election. so you are right -- he does want to boost his support because a lot of that along with the rest of his demographic in the u.s. has waned. this popularity is not what it was. it will not hurt to get a boost among obviously the catholic constituency. this visit really should be viewed in broader terms. let's throw out a few statistics. it is the ninth presidential visit, u.s. presidential visit to a pope will stop we had barack obama has already visited echo, benedict back in 2009. we have seen residents have varying chemistry with pope, john paul ii with ronald reagan. they got along famously because they were seen as staunch anti-communist. where is the chemistry going to be between this pope, who has been seen as the reform minded pope, someone -- a very different figure than the previous popes and in recent modern history, and president now down in the ratings. the obvious chemistry will be on economic agenda. when you think of this book,

the best catholic we have at msnbc. we'll see you coming up at 10:00 a.m. thank you, i appreciate it. >>> before arriving, president obama spoke in belgium yesterday where he made a declaration to standby allies. he said the borders of europe cannot be withdrawn with force. >> russia's violation of international law, its assault on ukraine's integrity must be met with condemnation. not because we're trying to keep russia down, but because the principles that have meant so much to europe and the world must be lifted up. understand as well this is not another cold war we're entering into. after all, unlike the soviet union, russia leads no block of nations, no global ideology. >> the president also took on claims of hi pok ypocrisy of ams handling of the iraq war. though he was a vocal critic during the invasion. >> russia pointed to america's decision to go into iraq as an example of western hypocrisy. i opposed our intervention there. but even in iraq, america sought to work within the international system. we did not claim or annex iraq's territory. we end

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but non-catholics.ays. get closer to god, strengthen your faith. and it doesn't mean compromise but it means a changing tone. >> it's interesting. this is something ralph and i have talked about. if you look at the republican party, there's examples of them pulling this off. you have mcdonnell got more evangelical voters as a guy from the middle. >> thank you. we'll be back next week. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." >>> good monday morning. right now on "first look" -- vanished. the missing malaysian passenger jet. >>> russian grasp. the future of crimea hangs in the balance. >>> american fugitive. nsa leaker edward snowden holds his first live video conference. >>> plus, promising news for anyone concerned about alzheimer's. >>> and is this really what high school basketball has gone to. >>> good morning. nice to see you. we begin with some breaking news ni

his chief of staff is a catholic whose brother is a catholic priest. seven justices on the supreme court are catholic. 25% of the nation is catholic. so, yeah, that has had an influence on him in his development of his person on his sense of social justice. that's something where the president and the pope share a very common things, but they also share that belief in jesus christ, and that's where the -- the gift that the president gave to the pope was a highly symbolic gift, the wood made from the first basilica, built by jefferson trobe. it had the first bishop that sat in that cathedral was a jesuit priest, and there were seeds in that box. you have to wonder was the president draws on the parable of the sower and the seed, the seeds will root and grow and new fruit between the president of the united states and the church. >> when they exchange gifts, i just want to say that the president officially invited the pope to come to the united states, and he apparently responded some version of, why not? this is when i would not want to be in the vatica

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we would rather have the support from u s catholics to american catholics especially from hispanic catholicsthat was in the demographic in a selection. so you're right he does what it was the support is a lot of that ran along with the rest of his demographic in the us has waned just petered out his popularity is not what it was so would never hurt to get a little bit of used among obviously the catholic constituency. but his previous visit me we should be viewed in broader terms but lets out a few statistics because a lot the statistics it's the ninth presidential busy us presidential visit to a pulp. we had brock obama is already visited the pope themselves it was that benedict setback in a two thousand and nine. i'm the scene american presidents over the years have varying chemistry with cokes i john paul the second notably with ronald reagan they got along famously because they were both seen a soviet communism fighters his staunch anti communist. so where is the chemistry kennedy between disco was definitely does time's man of the year he's been seen as a real reform minded hope someone

catholics in the pews have been planting for years.efore this pope we were going through a bit of a drought. it's an exciting time. to respond to cardinal dolan, tone is really important here, and we're seeing the tonal shift impact policies, maybe not church policy, but political and other policies across the world. >> well, e.j., you wrote about this, and your description was he has not altered church doctrine, but shift in emphasis has been breathtaking. really, you think it's been breathtaking? >> i do think it is. first of all, did you ever expect to begin this show as you did today by saying one was making the papacy cool? cool is not a term you usually associate with the papacy. >> not maybe since pope john paul went hiking in the rockies. it's been a long time. >> all the way back to pope john xxiii when i was a kid. i think one of the things he's made cool is simplicity. the name francis, he's gotten rid of a lot of the regalacy. there were jokes that the lacy tunics are not on sale on steep discounts on ebay, because he has s

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this was conducted on the campus of the catholic university of america. it's part of booktv college series joining us on booktv is catholic university professor of theology c.c. what do you teach at the university? >> i teach catholic theology and a range of courses related to this book that is called political theology so i think a lot about the relationship between the church and the state from its historical relationship and its theological and political importance. >> let's start towards the end of the book which is his democracy connected? >> at the end of the book i explore the democracy's restless desire. desire. does democracy have been in that what is the ultimate aim of democracy and i connect this idea to what the theologians talk about as the national desire that all human beings have this kind of restlessness. can that be true of politics, too the democratic restlessness does that also have a kind of restlessness built into it? so i ask about the restless desire. i want the question to work on us before i immediately answer it but yes the ans

all of which concerns conservative catholics.you think that things were headed in the right direction under benedict? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: and that they have now gone in a different direction. >> they have changed direction. >> reporter: maryanne hackett is a daily mass fish on friday kind of catholic. and as president of catholic citizens of illinois, she sees confusion in her church now. >> conservatives are distressed because they think not that he's changing the doctrines or the teachings, he can't. but because he's giving the impression that he's changing them by his words. >> reporter: that's playing with fire. >> yes it is playing with fire. >> reporter: when the vatican asked american bishops to survey catholics on family issues last fall, they got varied opinions and some tough responses. one said church teachings were heavy on the negative and thou shall not. another likened the church to a dictator. pray, pay and obey. victoria fleming believes francis has ignited a dialogue about that and more. >> i think chang

catholics believe that through ordination, you are transformed. it's a sacrament that changes your character. >> narrator: five years on and simone is disillusioned, jobless and living alone in an apartment borrowed from a friend: all the result of his decision to leave the church after his experiences of clerical life in rome. >> (translated): ordained in rome and living in a parish in rome, i became disillusioned because i saw that among priests, there were many contradictions-- a hunger for power, ambition. many priests, obviously not all of them, showed sexual hypocrisy. some priests were very promiscuous, and i saw that all that was not as i thought the clerical mission should be. >> narrator: at simone's ordination, pope benedict urged young priests to be the doormat of the faithful, to clean the souls of those who come in. but the hypocrisy he saw around him disturbed simone, and after a time of prayer and contemplation, he decided he wanted to live a normal life and go where his heart took him. >> (translated): when valentina appeared, i k

i know catholics as well. oh and i respect our president thing god we all live well and all people in the united rational people koreans kazakh sample the people live in harmony has expanded its not worth it. in nineteen fifty seven settlers are allowed to return to their homelands but in utp always people are forced to turn back to catholics and after the collapse of the news this hour the diesel to go for this family did not wish to leave can expand and another twenty five thousand compact results the states is considering kazakh said to be their new homeland. then now this holiday was celebrated in the center of the british capital performances of folk songs and dances facing a national dishes continue to lead people in the square located in front of the main building of the oldest university of london turned into a noisy and colorful market on that day thousands of people arrived in the capital from all over the kingdom to enjoy the great holiday i think it is a very important holiday inn should be celebra

and francis the latino culture that brought you here to the catholic church. most disadvantaged members of society are priority. to place in private. here speaking through interpreters some catholics had high hopes of what could be achieved by the encounter i'm hoping that as a result of the meeting will be of greater peace. on to world peace he remained an elusive goal. it seems the leaders didn't manage to build a rapport. the meeting was scheduled to last thirty minutes but it stretched to almost an hour. afterwards obama spontaneously invited the pope to visit the white house. an invitation francis immediately accepted the vatican and president obama's white house do not see eye to eye of course a number of social issues divorce gay marriage abortion policies like those are anathema to many catholics and other social concern. and of the tens of millions of catholics in the us many actually disagree with the vatican's stance on social issues. despite all this there is a new generation ready to devote themselves to the church every day mass in washington i l

church, dealing with the role of women in the catholic church. marriage, and that seems to be -- let me start with women. where is he on this? do you think that this will be the papacy that empowers women in the catholic church in a way we've not seen before? >> in the pope's reform of the curia, i think you'll see a lot of different characters involved in the central governance of the church. laypeople, men and women. the pope has said that the question of ordination is a settled question, it's not on the table. but there are all sorts of talents that laypeople bring to the church, women and men, and he'll deploy those. i think the pope is also like john paul ii determined that we not identify priesthood being a bishop with power. these are offices of service -- >> right. >> -- and to suggest that people have no authority, power in the church, if they're not ordained, is a bit -- >> does he feel he has to modernize the perception of the church to make it feel relevant in the 21st century? >> he has created an earthquake in the vatican that's got

his humble ways have inspired catholics around the world. when traveling he carries his own bag. he rides in a simple car instead of a papal limousine. he told nuns and priests, it hurts me to see a priest with a car that is of the latest model. it's just not right. he's returned the keys to the papal suite preferring to live in a simple vatican apartment. pope francis just by his warm style has given a great example for a lot of catholics and have made them feel proud again. >> reporter: this has been seen as forward leaning and captured attention in july when he said he wouldn't judge gay people. but observers say he has not softened on catholicism's core beliefs, abortion, same-sex marriage and women priests are not allowed. pope francis has acknowledged the priest abuse sex scandal calling it the shame of the catholic church. he set up a new commission to help protect children from abuse. alfonso van marsh, cbs news. >> pope francis earned the nickname the people's pope and the pope of the poor. and "time" magazine named him man of the year for 2013. >>> more americans could

i have non-catholics more interested than even catholics. but i think my question is, he has been an inspiring provocative wonderful presence. the question is, will his papacy be transformative. i think it has the potential to be transformative. >> rose: you say the potential to be. what has to happen for it to be transformative. >> i think he is working to reform the bureaucracy that works around him which is as miguel knows better than anyone is somewhat arcane and needs reform. i think he needs to appoint bishops who embrace his vision. he is one of many. women should have a role in the church. >> greater role. >> rose: but not as priests. >> but also being more consultive. he's emphasized that with bishops in talking to the faithful. if he changes in the church that would be transformative. >> i agree. the principle of solidarity. this is a wonderful moment for him to really put this into practice. these are not new things in catholicism, this is part of the second vatican council but it takes a leader to begin to really shift things and

catholics were saying religion has to be crucial for education. can't separate these two so consequently our response is we need to have the readings of the catholic bible under the direction of priests in public-school score give us money to fund our own parochial schools so we can have an integrated religious education and neither side could actually see the merits of the other side in this debate. it was highly contentious and tore apart communities throughout the nineteenth century on how to resolve this issue. supreme court for standard this debate about school prayer in 1948 in a case dealing with relief time. relief time was actually an interesting modification to respond to complaints about school sponsored prayer and bible reading in public schools as a way of accommodating all groups from ministers in gary, indiana in the 20th century, let's not have the schools be responsible for religious education, let's put aside a time during the day, and allow each religious community to bring in teachers or ministers to the children of that faith.

i am in fact not catholic. i am jewish. that may have played some role in it, but on all i think people have responded to the arguments of the book more than where i teach. >> how long have you been writing about capitalism? >> on and off for a lot of my professional life. i guess i started writing about it in the early 1980's -- sorry, in the later 1980's. i worked for many years on a book called the mind and the market, capitalism and modern european thought which has to do with our modern european intellectuals from voltaire in the 18th-century through herbert marcuse and frederick hayek in the 20th century taught about capitalism and its cultural ramifications. while that ultimately cannot in 2003, while i was working on that book i published another smaller book on adam smith as a social and political thinker. adam smith and his time and hours designing the decent society. and then after mind in the market cannot i worked in these more jewish oriented themes. i continue to think about and right about the history of cap

pugh research center finds 85% of catholics in the u.s.erall have a favorable view of the pope. and 71% of the catholics feels he represents a major change in the church with 68% saying it's a change for the better but that survey comes after the pope during comments he made in a new interview, this time involving the sex abuse scandal surrounding the catholic church. the pope told an italian church that the catholic church is possibly only the public institution that acted with transparency and responsibility. nobody else did more. still the catholic church was the only one to come under fire. those remarks were part of a wide-ranging interview that touched on several key issues including civil unions and the role imwomen in the church. the host of the catholic guy, thank you for joining us again. >> nice to see you again. >> i'm curious what your listeners and what you think of the pope's comments that the catholic church acted with transparency and responsibility and that the church is possibly the only public institution that acted tha

i know some you know this but as a proud catholic, i have never really cared much for atheists. (laughter) if you are turning your back on god's christian teachings, then at least have the courage to call yourself a lutheran. but folks, the latest stunt by these nonbelievers is truly nonbelievable. >> a group called american atheists is fighting to remove a cross on displace-- display at the soon to open 9/11 memorial museum saying the sight of it causes quote mental anguish. >> stephen: yes, this cross causes pen tall anguish for atheists. who would otherwise have a care-free visit to the 9/11 museum. now folks-- (applause) >> stephen: folks this atheist lawsuit offends me and not just as a christian but as a lover of good public relations. come on, atheists, you're protesting a cross in the 9/11 museum? i know you done believe god can hear you, but you realize the rest of us can, right? (laughter) but, but folks, president of american atheists david silverman just cannot let this one go. >> people are understanding the fact that the cross is christian, that it was installed if

she was president of the catholic youth organization and became a catholic school social worker.scandal and disappointment left her feeling disillusioned and this brought things to a boil. >> i feel they are being hippo crits and it's difficult for me to sit in a pu and listen to someone who i think is a hip crit. i don't need them as an intermediary to speak to god. i'm ashamed i don't go to church, i would like to, but i can't find the good feeling i used to have in going to church on sunday or any other time. >> for those in positions of authority, who seek to place the needs of vulnerable before the homeless, unemployed, above their own, we prayer to the lord. >> john is pastor of the st. aloysius church in jackson, more than an hour outside of newark. he said myer's actions carry long-term cost. >> we have eight acres. do we believe he'll live there by himself, he's not going to ride a john deere motor or be out there with a skimmer. he's not going to be there cooking. you're looking at another $500,000 in carrying costs and the arch diocese says he intends to be entertainin

for me a touchstone as a catholic of my relationship with the church is 1994 and in a half catholic countryas 50% catholic, they stood in silence as people were slaughtered. a lot of comparisons in congo to the last genocide. do you think the church needs to do more to speak about that conflict? all it has gotten is a passing mention and general speech on conflict. >> the father is a jesuit, always doing justice and carrying out justice. i would say he would be doing more and i think he is probably prodding people through the proper channels and catholic relief services and charities and other international aid organizations. the church is heavily involved with -- they didn't do nothing in rwanda. we had a lot of bishops who traveled there and relief agencies doing work on the ground so there are a lot of people in the grass roots within our church doing a lot of work helping people there. i wouldn't say the church was doing nothing. there was a lot of stuff -- sometimes things are done behind the scene that are sometimes more effective than things done for publicity sake. >> how does the p

she grew up in catholic schools was the president of a catholic youth organization and became a catholic school social worker. but years of scandal and disappointment have left her feeling disillusioned. and this latest controversy has brought things to a boil. >> feel that they are being hypocrites and it is very difficult for me to sit in a pew and listen to someone whom i think is a hypocrite. i don't need them as an intermediary to speak or go to god. i'm a little ashamed of the fact that i don't go to church but the point is i would like to, i just can't find that good feeling that i used to have in going to church on sundays or any other time. >> for those in positions of authority and place the needs of the vulnerable, the homeless, unemployed, underemployed we pray to the lord. >> the pastor of the church in jackson, more than an hour outsite of newark. he says meyers actions carry long term costs. >> so, here we have these lovely eight acres. do we believe he is going to live there by himself? he is not going to be riding a mower. he will not be without the skimmer pulling the b

father james marcus, editor of the national catholic magazine.oining us from dayton ohio is the former u.s. ambassador and professor of faith and culture at the university of dayton. i'm pleased to have each of them here as we mark this year, and i say with a great sense of pride that i happened to be there for the conclave in rome. it seemed to me what has spread out is an ideal that this is a new and different and a unique human being. >> certainly true. from the moment he made his first public appearance, he had a remarkable ability to communicate. i was in rome, i had the opportunity to meet him. here is this man who can communicate wonderful warmth and kindness in a remarkable way, even though i don't speak italian and he doesn't speak english. at the end of the session, there was a picture to be taken. he had his chair in front of our group. he is a 77-year-old man. he pushed his chair in line with the group, almost as if to say, i want to be one with you. i felt like that was expressive of who he is. >> you talk about when america magazine

♪ neil: to hear some angry catholics tell to the health care law is a sin, now they are suing, 200 catholic businesses and agencies filing a class action suit against department of health and human services over a mandate, they say violates their religious beliefs, basic free speech, and free choice, le let me be clear, this is not g about abortion. this is a legal tapbg tapbgt toa case, any response from anyone in government at-this-point? >> well, we fileed a lawsuit, we're not expecting a response yet, i'm sure we'll have one soon, and government will oppose it. neil: individual right thing, and personal freedoms, explain how the law violates those. >> well, catholic leaders, in united states have supported universal health care, they are not opposed to program in general but what we call in law the, the cask mandate, contraceptives, abortion introduceing drugs and devices and sti sterileization, the lawt seek s exemption for three groups of catholic employers, a tote o of one 186 catholic empl. this is a class-action lawsuit, we represent more catholic employers than that. but the first

still, the catholic church was the only one to come under fire.buse survivors blasted his words as disingenuous and criticized the pope for failing to take any concrete actions to protect children. >> it is heartbreaking for us to see the true colors of pope francis and it seems to be that he wants the same reckless and private ways of coping to continue. >> reporter: francis' strong words surprised some as this is the pope who's captured the world's attention with the simple message of mercy making this humble man a global star, now with a magazine devoted solely to him. francis wants none of it saying "to paint the pope as some sort of superman, a star, is offensi offensive." >> he's not wanting to be superpope. he would like people to pay attention to what he is saying. >> reporter: and what the pope makes clear in this interview is while he will listen the basic teachings of the catholic church are not up for review. on birth control banned by the church but used by many catholics, the pope said it is not a question of changing the doctrine bu

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president met with conservative catholic argentinean pope. and everything seemed cordial enough but one side chose to emphasize what the two had in common while the other focused on areas of difference. each had its own domestic reasons for that approach. didn't they, doyle? >> they did, gwen. we don't often talk about the pope as a political reporter with a domestic constituency but you can make that analogy. let's start with president obama, though. he's easier. he needed one thing out of this meeting. he needed a nice picture of himself smiling, next to the pope, the most popular person in the world right now. not barack obama. the pope. gwen: we got that. >> he got all the pictures. they were lovely and the president gave his readout of the meeting and it was sweetness and light. it was about the common ground on poverty. and the common ground on world peace. and the fact they were going to work together. and then a little bit after that, the vatican as it tends to do, put out a very spare statement. that had points of common interest in

employers, a tote o of one 186 catholic empl.s is a class-action lawsuit, we represent more catholic employers than that. but the first group of employers, are those that are exempt under government regulation, they would consist of diocese and religious orders, parishs and groups like that, the government calls them houses of worship, they arei except, te problem with those, is they like to sponsor benefit plans for afilliated ministries, as law sits right now they have to kick those groups out of their plans unless they can get relief. neil: a lot argue a lot of laws come down to washington to which many americans are more olli -- moraly opposeed how would you differentiate? >> under the lead claim we have to prove that the cask mandate burdens our religious exercise, for catholic organizations we believe that aboring introduceing -- abortion introduceing drugs are taking lives of unborn to facilitate would burden our religious exercise. that is harm we prove it is well established in the law that burdening a constitutional rig