huge output of anti-catholic, catholic conspiracy literature. one after another. this stuff was more popular than antislavery or proslavery literature. which is the other great cultural debate in the mid-19th century. and the best-selling book of all -- it is only did throne with and -- unthrrone oned with "uncle tom's cabin." "the awful disclosures of maria monk." it was published in 1836. it was exposed to be a fraud, but it tells the story of a catholic girl growing up in canada. she becomes friendly with the nuns she goes to the convent, , and as soon as the doors are shut, she found out the real story. most of it involved sexual impropriety, priests taking advantage of nuns, among other things. there is a fear that there is an army of catholics about to overthrow the republic. there is also a fear of morally speaking that they pose a great threat to the republic. and that is why, this great fear of condiments. maria monk is this huge bestseller. she goes on a big book tour. the baby she is holding is a baby she eventually becomes pregnant, according to her st

anti-catholic, catholic conspiracy literature, one right after the other. this was more popular than proslavery or literature, and other greek debate in the mid-19th century. -- best-selling book of all it only did its throne -- gets its -- gets an throw -- "uncle tom's cabin." the awful disclosures of maria monk. it was published in 1830 six. it was about what was really happening behind the walls, sexual impropriety, priests taking advantage of nuns, among other things. there is kind of a fear that there is actually an army of catholics about to overthrow the republic. there is also a fear of, morally speaking, they pose a great threat to the republic. fear ofwhy there was a convents and why the convent was burned. is a hugemonk bestseller and she goes on a big tour, telling the people her tale of woe. the baby she has is a baby she became pregnant, according to her story, from an irish priest. they fled the convent because they were going to kill the baby to hide the evidence to was exposed as a fraud and ended up dying in poverty. the anti-catholic acti

most of the people in this community are catholic.ve always been active, but the last couple years, they can't say enough about the young kids that are on fire with their faith. >> have you noticed in recent years more young men wanting to pursue priesthood than before? >> oh, yeah. we have so many young men that are checking it out. >> and that's something that people are pretty proud of, huh? >> oh, definitely. i would love to have a son that was a priest. >> really? >> that would be i think every mother's dream in this community. >> just a few miles up the road from the catholic store, that dream came true for father gary's mother, agnes. once a week, her son, the priest, comes home to lead a private mass, just for his parents and siblings. >> you alone are the lord. >> but father gary isn't the only one wearing a collar in this family. his identical twin brother todd is also a priest. it's a double blessing for agnes and her husband bryan. >> when they told you they were interested in pursuing the priesthood, how did you feel? >>

indianapolis roman catholic archbishop joseph tobin leads ecumenical dialogue for the u.s.c bishops. >> how does the bishop of rome relate to the rest of the christian churches? the orthodox have a very definite view on it as do the roman catholics. >> the only way we could accept the authority of the pope of rome in the whole christianity is the same way it was practiced in the first millennium. he is the authority of a bishop among equals, like it happens in the east. >> reporter: the local christian presence in predominantly muslim turkey has diminished greatly in recent decades. official statistics suggest there may be fewer than 5,000 greek orthodox christians here. they are free to worship, but face other restrictions. halki theological school, the only greek orthodox seminary in turkey, was closed by the government in 1971. and despite strong international lobbying, it has still not been allowed to reopen. >> it is a direct violation of human rights and religious rights. if you do not open the school, then you violate one of my fundamental rights as a citizen, as a f

confession is the most private of catholic rituals.ather todd shares what it's like to be keeper of people's darkest secrets. >> so this is the confession room? >> this is one of the confessionals here at st. thomas. >> did you get nervous in the beginning just because people are sharing such deeply held things with you? >> i was terrified the first time i walked in here. this is such a sacred space where someone can be completely open to the lord and sometimes that means really sharing something that they have never, ever told anyone. so when i'm in here, i really try to listen to the holy spirit and say god, i need you to tell me what to say. so far sh he's come through. >> we all are predisposed to form opinions and make judge judgements. how hard is it for you not to judge what you hear? >> surprisingly, not that hard. i have love and mercy myself. how on earth could i not give that to someone elimination. >> at the end of the day you're a 26-year-old farm boy. >> uh-huh. >> where do you get this authority to be able to forgive peo

most of them are not catholic.as worried that the diocese would close sacred heart, as the church has so many inner-city schools. >> and so we created a sponsorship. we set it up that people would give $300 a year, and that would help the family to get the child through. >> reporter: many in the congregation who are catholic come from as far away as 50 miles to attend mass. they, and hundreds on the mailing list, get epistles each month from father doyle etááv and a request for help. in 2012, he raised more than $900,000. camden mayor dana redd, a baptist, attended sacred heart school after her parents died from gun violence. here's a picture of her giving flowers to mother teresa when she visited the parish. >> i can say that sacred heart really played an important role in shaping and framing the person that i am today.ç they were my extended family in so many respects. >> reporter: julian's mother helped pay for his schooling at sacred heart. his father wasn't around. >> i do sometimes wonder, like, what would m

you know the apex of any catholic mass is the giving of communion. when it came time to do communion at the border mass, the bishops gave communion to the people on the american side, people in front of them but also through the border fence they gave communion to the people in nogales, mexico, on the mexican side of that wall. there's this incredibly official american cardinal making his case in very dramatic ways for compassion on the issue of immigration and the need for immigration reform. not just these demonstrations of solidarity. same cardinal has written to the obama administration telling them to start deporting so many people and find a way to reform immigration policy. and he is the closest thing that americans have to somebody at the center of power in the church. he faxes with the pope every day. that's weird on the one hand. who knew people still faxed anything ever. but also -- it is also deja vu weird because back in the golden age of faxing, back in the 1980s it was the same situation being the catholic church being mad about immigr

certainly the most influential american in the whole catholic church now. apparently somebody with whom the pope shares a love of faxing. they fax. >> usually we fax. >> really? >> yes. >> you fax with the pope? >> yes. >> people still communicate by fax? >> still communicate by fax. >> like with letters or -- >> uh-huh. >> really? >> very quick and efficient and a little more private than -- >> really? >> most people think -- >> paper. >> oh, really? most people think texting is quicker than faxing. >> well, the pope and i aren't into texting. >> no texting, just faxing. there are reasonable arguments to be made about how influential the catholic church or any church is in u.s. politics at any given time. we're at this interesting moment where the new pope announced plans to visit this country. he has also just demoted who was the highest ranking american at the vatican, cardial raymond burke. pope benedict named him a cardinal. he was knon for making the most of all the extravagances that come with being a cardinal, but you don't have to wear them all the

a catholic community set up like this? >> this is a big problem.hat time jeb bush convinces the florida legislature to allow ave maria to be set up as a kind of planned community and he convinces the legislature that unlike other planned communities in florida there's no representative democracy in this town. the prior law had said, look, if you set up one of these planned communities you have to allow people in it to vote at least after ten years. in this case, there's no guarantee that any of these people, 2,500 people in 11,000 acres in ave maria, florida, will ever get a chance to vote. so think, you will have people like tom moynihan who is a very ied diosyncratic catholic decid if you want to watch soft porn on the table, you can't do that. if you want to go into a grocery store and you want to buy a condom, you can't do it in ave maria, florida. >> there is something wholly unconstitutional about it, because if these folks who live in that town cannot ever vote they'll never change the policies. >> this gentleman stepped down from ave maria

. >> the catholic arch diocese of new york plans to merge 14% of its parishes with others, according to cardinal timothy dolan. in a newspaper column, the new york archbishop said it was not feasible to keep so many parishes open because of the dwindling numbers of catholics and priests. meanwhile the archdiocese of chicago citing budget deficits, announced this week that it would close or merge 14 elementary schools at the end of the academic year. >> earlier this year in april, 29-year-old britney maynard was given six months to live after being diagnosed with advanced brain cancer. she made headlines when she pledged to end her life with the help of a doctor rather than continue to suffer. mayna maynard's announcement caused much debate. joining me is kathy lynn grossman, senior national correspondent for religion news service who has been writing about death and dying for many years. kathy, welcome. good to have you here. >> thank you, bob. >> how do we all divide on this? >> americans divide fairly sharply on this issue. it depends on their value system. if their values are prim

in addition to his dedication to catholic education, archbishop suppage is committed to catholic social teaching, reaching out to help the poor and others at the margins of society. yesterday at the right of reception, he spoke of the challenges that await him, including immigration reform, violence in the streets, drug problems, and staying connected to the real lives of people. i look forward to working together with our new archbishop as he addresses these issues and other challenges that we face. archbishop superage is succeeding cardinal francis george who has been archbishop of chicago for 17 years. cardinal george was ordained to the priesthood in 1963 at his home parish in chicago, illinois. his older sister remembers a young cardinal george holding pretend mass in his bedroom as a child. after earning several degrees, including his masters in theology from the university of iowa in 1971, george embarked on a journey croost the globe as a student and missionary. from 1974 to 1986 he served as vicar general of the oblates in rome. he led numerous priests and brothers as they jour

no one in the catholic church ever wants to get reassigned.ne's like, "is it because he -- you know?" and even when people say like, "no, no, no, no, it wasn't that!" people are still like, "but it's been that before and you didn't admit to it, so why should i believe you now?" [ laughter ] but at the same time, now is the time for change. and if you don't like it, you should look out. because i got a paint ball gun, woo-hoo! [ laughter ] >> seth: you really love paint ball. >> i do, it's the best. [ laughter ] but don't get me wrong, seth. this is not all fun and games. this is about focusing on the people we can help the most. the poor and the disenfranchised. not turning people away. but moving forward. modernizing confession. >> seth: oh that's interesting, how are you modernizing confession? >> well, now instead of penance of two hail marys and one our father, you can have them say something more up to date. like three "my bad, homes." and one, "did i do that?" [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: not sure how up to date, "did i do that," i

. >> i was amazed to go back and see the comparison to 1987 with the pressure the catholic bishops were putting on reagan then and the pressure put by advocates and catholic bishops and others on president obama now. that is so parallel. what seems very, very different is the other side of it. what seems very different is the character of the anti-immigrant lobby. i guess i have to ask if that squares with what you're seeing with this furor over the prospect of immigration reform in washington. >> to a certain degree, yes. a bit of it, though, also is just the general really just distaste for president obama on the republican side. he can be doing almost anything on a unilateral or executive basis and republicans would probably get outraged. they have this sort of pending lawsuit about executive orders that's been nebulous. maybe it's obama care.

catholics who attend mass at least once week has dropped from 47 percent in 1974 to 24 percent in 2012. >> at one time, the archdiocese of new york has 1,200 priests, it now has only 365. not must have to staff all of its parishes. the archdiocese spends $40 million a year to supplement what it describes as unneeded parishes. >> cardinal timothy dolan. >> this is about making the church stronger, more renewed, more viable. >> dolan hopes to use proceeds from the sales of the closed churches to fund religious education and outreach programs. >> the reorganization takes effect august 2015. >> don dahler, cbs news, new york. >> glor:. >> one world trade center gets it first tenants tomorrow morning, magazine publisher conde nast is moving in, the company will occupy about a third of the building's 104 floors, conde nast will have the building to themselves for now, they remain the only tenant. later, the lava flow in hawaii, learning lessons from previous disasters, and the team loss of a washington red skin involved in a pregame accident when the cbs evening news continues. >> >> glor: i

and then the catholic bishops started lob being to make a clang to it. to tweak enforcement to that wall so families wouldn't be sprated. so if imgrant pashltss could get status, their kids could, too. it was a powerful case. and the year after romd e ronald reagan had signed this law, congress did try to vote on a change to that law that would have made the kient of adjustment that the catholic bishops were asking for. they tried, but it wound up not getting all the way through. in 1987, the reagan administration announced that even though congress had changed the law, president reagan would do it himts. but the bishops kept pushing. even under the tweaked interpret tagsz of the law, there was still some farely common e common circumstances in which this law could result in naplies being split up. and congress, every after ronald reagan had taken that executive action, congress, again, trying to make another fix of the law. congress took up that law. by then, it was george hw bush he was president. and he decided to take action on his own to extabd e ta

how do you think he is going to address that problem in the catholic church here in the u.s.? >> i think he has to do with the church constantly has to do, and say we are sorry. and have to repeat that over and over and over, apologize for the bad behavior of the priests, and for the bishops who did not respond well and deal with these priests. and then, i think, have to reach out to the victims of abuse, to meet with them, to talk with them, listen to their stories. this is so important. >> this pope does not always stick to the script, as we have seen. what kind of surprises do you think could be in store? >> with this pope, you never know what surprises he will have. i just don't know. i mean, every time he goes somewhere, he surprises. i think he will be challenging to the united states, because this is a man who does not believe that the market solves all of the worlds problems. he is going to talk about the concern we should have for the poor, and the government should have for the poor. >> on the problem of undocumented migrants -- >> absolutely. absolutely. hopefully,

so why can't it be smuggled then to acceptability with the catholic church? this is a medication or primary effect of which is to make you more healthy with a secondary benefit but that of course is not why you're doing it to preventing pregnancy? >> guest: is a fascinating argument of john rocker taken that to the church in 1957 instead of trying to compare to the rhythm method but said we have this new women's health pill that in addition to all of these other benefits allows them to decide when they are ready to get pregnant or not and when they are ready to start their big catholic families which is what the church wanted, that might've been a very different argument. it's all about how you frame these things in the beginning they took their best shot at frame yet. they focused on the issues of the day which were population control and not sex, not in women's health. they thought the best issue for them in terms of propaganda in terms of gaining public support was population control. the pill hasn't had the effect on matt over the decades they thought it

as i have said many times before, pope francis' presence will bring all of us, catholic and non-catholic alike, together in tremendous unifying and healing ways. we now eagerly anticipate pope francis' arrival in philadelphia next september. we will be ready, and we will welcome him joyfully with open arms and prayerful hearts. let us all raise our voices in thanksgiving to almighty god for the gift of pope francis and for our holy father's decision to come to philadelphia. [ cheers and applause ] looks we have a wave going in the back. at this time it is my pleasure to introduce somebody who doesn't need an introduction, the mayor of philadelphia, and while mayor nutter is working his way up here, i would like to thank the mayor for the unbelievable commitment by the city of philadelphia, the mayor and his team. an incredible amount of resources, help, guidance to us. it's just been an unbelievable partnership for us, and thank you for that, mayor, and we look forward to continuing working with you and your team for this wonderful event. mayor nutter. [ applause ] >> good morning, every

i'm a catholic. i was brought up catholic, but i'm not a church-going sort of girl. very spiritual. i pray every night. i believe in heaven and hell. >> mm-hm. the. >> but i'm not a person who goes to church like every sunday. so that's not the way i thought about it. i thought, he's my kid. he's our baby together. he's in my house now. he's driving again. and the other day, he told me, ma, i think i want to go back to college. so i have no worries for everything that happened to us. and in life, the bigger the pain, the more you hurt, the bigger the lesson you're learning, so pay attention. >> there are a lot of catholics who have been disaffected, i'm not saying you were, but a lot of catholics who have been disaffected for years are being turned on because of this new pope, relatively new pope. your thoughts about him? are you following him? are you watching him? >> oh, yeah. he's a very good pope. we've had the good, the bad and the ugly throughout history. >> every faith tradition does. >> and i think that he is a good man. and if you're not a good man to start

smaller majorities of other protestants and catholics also went republican, as did those who say they attend religious services at least once a week. majorities of jews, people of other religions, and those with no religious affiliation voted democratic. >>> after a recent string of court decisions supporting same-sex marriage, the sixth u.s. circuit court of appeals this week took the opposite stand and upheld gay marriage bans in four states -- ohio, michigan, kentucky and tennessee. this puts new pressure on the supreme court to finally take up a case that will decide whether gay marriage bans are indeed constitutional. >>> religious freedom is under fire in 60% of the world's nations, according to a new report from the international catholic charity aid to the church in need. it says anti-christian persecution in some countries has reached "catastrophic levels." in england, prince charles called on religious leaders to do more. >> rather than remaining silent, faith leaders have, it seems to me, a responsibility to ensure that people within their own tradition respect people from

. >> reporter: tonight catholics of all ages share in the jubilation they are gearing up for a papal visit more than three decades in the making. in fact last time philadelphia was blessed with the papal visit it was pope john paul the second in 1979. good evening, i'm chris may. >>> i'm jessica dean. we will have more on that but first... >> in weather we're talk about our storm system ram pink up. the rain is moving out but win is building in and we are talking about the coldest air that we have seen since last winter. fifty in philadelphia. but this is the line of arctic air that is progressing toward the south east, 40's and 30's to the north and west. state college 36. twenty in cleveland. that cold air is in moving our way. this is what we expect this evening, rain ending within the the next hour, areas of ponding on the area roads. temperatures falling to freezing. windy, conditions, 15 to 20 miles an hour wind with those wet leaves and the freezing temperatures, we will have some slick spots. come tomorrow morning, to the north and west of philadelphia, temperatures in the lo

women run the catholic charities, the catholic schools, the development office for the archdiocese. >donnell: some would say women do a lot of the work, but have very little power. >> o'malley: well, "power" is not a word that we like to use in the church. it's more "service." >> o'donnell: but they can't preach. they can't administer the sacraments. >> o'malley: well... >> o'donnell: i mean, some women feel like they're second-class catholics because they can't do those things that are very important. >> o'malley: well, they... but they're... they have other very important roles that, you know, are... a priest cannot be a mother, either. the tradition of the church is that we have always ordained men, and that the priesthood reflects the incarnation of christ who, in his humanity, is a man. >> o'donnell: but in spite of that, does the exclusion of women seem at all immoral? >> o'malley: well, christ would never ask us to do something immoral. and i... i know that... >> o'donnell: the sense of equality. i mean, just the sense of sort of the fairness of it, you know. you wouldn't exclu

catholics and non-catholics alike can expect to hear more about this home stay push during the coming tonight, we found an openness to the idea with just a few logistical concerns. >> i wish i could but the thing is i live in a small place so it wouldn't make sense for me. >> reporter: the homestay.com web site which will be the online marketplace making connections between the hosts and visitors does have information about trust and safety concerns with visitors already confirmed from 153 different countries, organizers say these home stays can be an engaging and interesting way to support the cause. george spencer, nbc 10 news. >>> shop owners in the poconos are hoping an early ski season will boost business after a deadly ambush on two state troopers. corporal brian dixson was killed in the attack that set off an intense man hunt for accused cop killer eric frein, roads were closed, residents were on lockdown and businesses suffered. it took 48 days to capture frein. today in the very same woods where frein hid for so many weeks, snow covers the trees and fields. ski season kicks o

catholic contemplating their role? >> in a lot of countries you can find a catholic congregation, catholic errors that is -- parish that is extremely accommodating to you. in other areas of the country, that's harder. i don't know what to say to people in those areas. maybe go to an episcopal church. a person's relationship with god is his or her relationship with god. i don't think any cleric or any can pervert or govern that utterly. i think you can always find ways , and in some cases, should, to worship your god and have a relationship with your god that is not mediated or compromised by rules you don't believe in. let me go back to your experience as a food critic for a second. >> that's an interesting transition. >> i know. [laughter] souffle.aints to [indiscernible] when you got asked to serve as a food critic, having had your own complicated relationship with food and having written a book about it, did you hesitate taking the job? equivalentobably challenges the reporters would have being assigned to a job lik

. >> reporter: 10,000 letters from catholic school students in our area were sent to the pope francis in rome with plea toss visit philadelphia we have put a lot of work into them. so it is grateful he got a chance to read some of them and that he chose to come. >> it is sort of like a validation of their efforts, all of the hard work they put into it and now they get reward. >> reporter: this will be pope francis first visit to the united states and widespread appeal of this particular pope is generate ago lot of excitement. >> to pope crosses generations and appeals to so many people beyond the catholic faith and he has got a great message. >> he has a new point of view and new perspective so i think it is important that he hose that the with the entire world. >> how often do you get to meet a pope. he is over in rome, we're in philly. for him to come here and we can ride septa down to see him is a once in a life time experience. >> reporter: he is right about that. >> the students are also excited for another reason, all philadelphia catholic schools will be closed, for three days

, for example there slightly more catholic, there are conversions in an unfriendly world but the goodews is it doesn't matter. once you have that they take root because they work and you can be hindu or jewish or atheist and still put the system on the market. >> as a canadian i disagree with the corporate version because it kind of was founded or at the lead least english canada by enlightens. fleeing in the revolution, and canada has developed its economic institutions, that matter more than the united states but my question is used dress common law but legislative fear is another thing but the great threat, certainly you were aware of this, that is your job, administrative law and i wish you could comment on that. >> i have nothing to add to what you said. you are absolutely correct. also, correcting what you said about the revolutionary period. if you really want to see what was actuating the massachusetts revolution that was a fact which would invade canada. this is not -- you don't need to be searching around in the obscure secondary sources. it is in the declaration of independ

>>> just last week 10,000 philadelphia catholic school kids wrote letters to the pope pleading for him to come to philadelphia today their letters and prayers were answered. he himself announced today that he is coming for world meeting of families in september. >>> well, steve, from good news to some pretty sad news, one person is confirmed dead in a house fire here in east germantown, three other people are being assisted by red cross, the cause remains under investigation, sue. >> it is raining now, it will be raining later, but how much will we get? when will we get rid of this mess? we have he got not only the end of the rain in the forecast but much colder temperatures on this messy monday, forecast is coming up. >>> here's one for nelson who has got it for the touchdown. >> a perfect throw, as packers are at the top of their game at least aaron rodgers is. the eagles, not so much. mark sanchez is react to go this brutal loss. big daddy gram will join us this hour of breaking down what went wrong. frank on twitter sums it up best kerry barrett. >> eagles got blown out. now lookin

a catholic boat trip?olic boat ♪ time to throw all of your cares away ♪ ♪ get some hot christian action that'll take you -- ♪ [ screaming ] uh...[ coughing ] excuse me. look, i just don't think it's the best idea to let our boys go on a cruise with the priest. we can't let them go, can we? there's no way my son's going. what are theytalking ab? i don't know. maybe they want to kill us! with everything that's been in the news, we keep our kids far away from the priest. come on, everybody. just because a few priests in the country have been corrupt, it doesn't mean all priests are child molesters. sure, that's easy for you to say -- your son's dead. but those of us with alive children need to be sure that father maxi is on the up-and-up. i've heard about other towns bringing in counselors that know how to find things out from kids without really telling them what's going on. it couldn't hurt. shh! shh! here he comes. here he comes. [ all whistling ]

socialists.een en anand everywhere, catholics. i chronicle in my book a really very bloody and violent anti-catholic history in america since the 1600's, all the way century.20th so i want to read a little something here as well about this. it's what a historian said about this period of time. bessie and edward knew their marketplace and fashioned a product guaranteed to sell. historian nancy maclean summed up the situation. klan leaders constructed a new of reactionary politics that yoked white supremacy to percent americanism. anti-catholicism -- anti-semitism. things were changing and white protestant america was fearful. sell.an be an easy it was indeed fertile ground. bessie and edward had tapped a huge and receptive marketplace of fearful white protestants. business was good. now, bessie and edward were making enormous fortunes. fact, the most glaring fact, eventually -- i'll talk about this -- edward and bessie are forced to leave, forced out. left for california with reportedly $800,000 in cash, used an inflation calculato

catholics, and this is big since the first moment he was elected. he has an ability to connect with people. the famous words, never before a hope has started his suspicions. >> saying good evening to people. expression. >> instead of a blessing or whatever. and since the first coming out, he didn't have the golderb - the golden uponivic, he wanted to stay with the silver cross. >> as a friend of his, did he want to be pope? >> of course. he was ready to retire, doing the book that i did. he is so organised and really he already had a place where to go and retire, a home for elderly priests. he had the room number, number 13. and he was ready to retire and also when he was asked some months after being elected by a little girl, did you want to be a pope. he said "someone must be totally crazy to want to be a pope." >> is he happy being hope? >> if you see him, on wednesday, in general orders, you see a happy manful when i meet argentinian priests and see him, and then i ask them how did you find the pope? how do you find padre. >> they would say as h

and so we are a catholic school but serve low-income kids in the washington neighborhood. we serve 136 students. it's co-institutional. we have a girls school. our lady of grace nativity school for girls. and we have a boys school, sacred heart nativity school for boys. so our -- we offer a catholic jesuit middle school experience, which is not tuition driven. so our families pay $45 a month. so it's an average of $540 per year. and the cost for students is about $15,000 a year. so we fund-raise the balance because we believe that every school -- excuse me, we believe that every student has the ability to succeed in a catholic jesuit environment. >> that's fascinating. we do have video we downloaded from your website, actually. these are kids who wouldn't normally be able to go to a private school. tell us about the kids who you're serving there. >> absolutely. you know, all of our students are first in the family to go to college. about half of our students are first this their family to go to high school. so we are looking at the children of the working poor. children wh

the catholic church is the largest nonprofit provider of health care all around the world.it's been on the front lines of trying to cope with the realities of autism and the challenges that the families face that have members that suffer from this disease for a long time. pope francis of course is a pope who like to reach out to people he believes have been marginalized or forgotten about or ignored. this was right in his wheel house. and i think he wanted to come to this meeting today to make a statement that he wanted to pledge the support of the catholic church for what he called encounter solidarity and outreach to people who suffer from this disease. obviously theest here, zain, is to try to raise consciousness, put this on the global radar screen so to speak and say these people should not be swept under the rug but we need to reach out to them. >> you mentioned an interesting point. you mentioned that pop francis does like to reach out help the people who have been marginalized. he comes across as very liberal. but overall how is he being viewed by the ultra conserva

so your a program manager with catholic charities? >> i am. >> and catholic charities as most of us know does a lot of work with the homeless population, and would also get contracts from the city. >> correct. >> i am just curious does it come up at all, or whether -- when you're in discussion of certain things that it's a conflict of interest for you? >> occasionally with the continuum of care particularly when voting on particular funding and that's probably the only time and i'm the first to recuse myself and say i need to step back, and i always sit on the [inaudible] oversight committee so i am well aware of what my limit aikdzs are, where i should speak, where i shouldn't speak and not necessarily forcing my opinion. if it's something i discussed, i avoided subcommittees just so there is not an appearance of impropriety and we have learned how to rock and roll. the chairs on the local board is also aware as is megan owens who will make sure that if there's a question that we will certainly cover that and make sure again there is

he said there is a catholic priest there. this man in selma is often overlooked in the selma movement. .e was french canadian descent he himself had experienced discrimination because of being of that dissent. very much on that side of the movement. he opened his church to meetings with other ministers, many of whom had to work in the white economy, could not risk it. father maurice did that. he said we need you to support this man. we are baptist. he's catholic. we don't understand. we need you there for that. and, they said, he has been asking us for a couple of years work we do some literacy around voter education so we can get people up to speed to at least go down and try to register. and we don't have time to do that. kind of like trying to do a book club in a fox hole. you know. i thought i would try it out. i went and met the father. i was totally struck by his way of being. he was a humble man but had a charisma that was really quiet. so i ended up in selma. before i got there, i did a lot of research on literacy mat