that shook up the catholic church. ople who want to take pope benedict and use him as the whipping post right now because they don't like the catholic doctrine. they don't like its views on sexuality or embryonic stem cellee search or euthanasia. i understand you don't like the catholic church's doctrine that's fine. you have the trite disagree with it you don't have to be catholic. you don't have to be part of the catholic church. we want you to be catholic but you don't have to be. disagree with the catholic church, that's fine. condemn the sandals, that's fine. but also, enormous good is done by the catholic church and catholic volunteers across the globe. and i would suggest some of my friends who are heaping on the criticism, you know it, would be nice if on occasion what's been done in places like bass ba swan in a aids compassionate care. >> bill: catholic charities biggest organized charity in the world they could but they don't. i think this is all abortion-driven. i think that's why in america, by the way, may

how big a moment for the catholic church? >> you know, i've been a catholic since the moment i was born and, you know, there is something exciting about seeing the white smoke in person. this is the first time. our hope and prayer is it is going to be someone that welcomes the inclusion of women in the catholic church, someone who opens up more roles to women in the catholic church. >> what is your feeling now? you came here from d.c., right? >> i'm worried. a quick election, i don't think that includes women so just we're waiting to see who it is. >> why so nerve snous. >> we're very nervous because we presume that a quick vote means that it is going to be someone that is well known within the curiam, and the men, the cardinals that are very well known and established in rome and the curiam are not very friendly towards women and more traditionalists. so we are a little bit nervous right now, waiting to see who emerges on that balcony. >> well, we will all wait together. very, very exciting. >> we'll know soon. they should co

this is a very tough job at the best of times and the catholic church is going through extremely tough times right now takes over the job will inherit a menagerie of scandals that appear to have dogged the church throughout the papacy of benedict the sixteenth step down at the end of last month these include well just recently the most senior catholic in scotland one of the most senior cardinals around. leaving his post and being part of a. a a scandal involving unwanted sexual contact now he actually turned up to textual. attention i beg your pardon and he actually pulled out of attending a conclave saying he didn't want to draw attention to himself he's not the only one that's been caught up in scandals though of late in los angeles just as the. as the conclave was coming together it came out this catholic church there it paid off millions of dollars to young children who'd been abused at the hands of catholic priests now there's also on the very first day of balloting when the morning we saw anti mafia police raiding buildings belonging to some of those involved in the conclave. oth

> jon: the liberals in the media seem to be-- that a liberal wasn't appointed the head of the catholic churchne, he's pretty old, 76 and two the first latin and i think where the church is growing and still has influence and three, he's a jesuit that was interesting to see a jesuit in this position and i think one reason he's called pope francis. but to my mind, i disagree with kirsten, american cka catholics want change especially women on contraceptives. if you have a new leader, do you reflect the body of the people in terms of the united states. >> catholic church is it not a democracy. people need to wake up. if you don't like it, don't be catholic. i'm not catholic, but the point is, they're there to guard the truth of the catholic church fot to acquiesce to popular opinion in the united states. >> that's a source of strength one is enormous media fascination with the institution, back to jesus christ and roman empire and in addition to an article of faith, a museum that looks a lot like 2000 years ago, and you don't get many of those in the current environment, but the other bias is, i

churches. everyone i have been speaking to says that is of great concern. catholics are beginning 0 leave the church. they are finding the evangelical churches responding more immediately to their needs, so a feeling the catholic church has become very removed from the people, so i think that is a situation reflected in argentina, so a sense of people turning away from the church, a huge challenge for the region. i have heard people say the priorities of the pope will depend on where they come from. i think it is fair to say we will be looking at real challenges and a decline in congregations, a decline in the number of people actually going to church here. >> in rome tonight there is surprise. there is excitement. there is a mixture of feelings about what it will mean for the papacy going forward. i wonder if there is a sense of unease that changes coming, that it might not be changed, that some of them actually want. >> you were there while the announcement was being made. i was wondering the same thing. there were all these romans but turned out for the announceme

of the catholic church. has substantial influence at the many schools that its members run. the statements of the pope are most welcome here. >> these reforms are unfortunate, and the church has to make clear its position. thank god we can express our opinions openly and have the opportunity to question if these laws are appropriate. >> just 12% of spaniards go to mass, but most still want to attend weddings, first communions, and other ceremonies -- a dilemma for the church. >> spaniards are catholics but not practicing. all we did was inherit the face -- faith. >> still associated is the franco regime, which the church supported. it is a legacy which continues to cause much soul-searching among catholics. >> this is about a separation of the heart and mind. atop the catholic church is -- at heart of the catholic church as part of a long family tradition, but our hearts tell us something different. >> their work focuses on providing help for the homeless, unemployed, or disadvantage. >> i have to steal beca

in china, the catholic church in cuba, the catholic church in all nations that are not fully free. >> and it clashes with the government are not-- i mean, they're about corruption, but they're also about the last issues that you're talking about and in this government, first the city of buenos aires approved gay marriage and the government it it on a national basis and he had a lot of struggles with that. >> that's it for our college of cardinals here. when we come back president obama's charm offensive continues as he meets with republicans on capitol hill. republicans on capitol hill. is his outre[ kate ]ere or many women may not be absorbing the calcium they take as well as they could because they don't take it with food. switch to citracal maximum plus d. it's the only calcium supplement that can be taken with or without food. my doctor recommends citracal maximum. it's all about absorption. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with r

of the catholic church. has substantial influence at the many schools that its members run. the statements of the pope are most welcome here. >> these reforms are unfortunate, and the church has to make clear its position. thank god we can express our opinions openly and have the opportunity to question if these laws are appropriate. >> just 12% of spaniards go to mass, but most still want to attend weddings, first communions, and other ceremonies -- a dilemma for the church. >> spaniards are catholics but not practicing. all we did was inherit the face -- faith. >> still associated is the franco regime, which the church supported. it is a legacy which continues to cause much soul-searching among catholics. >> this is about a separation of the heart and mind. atop the catholic church is -- at heart of the catholic church as part of a long family tradition, but our hearts tell us something different. >> their work focuses on providing help for the homeless, unemployed, or disadvantage. >> i have to steal beca

it's not just the catholic church. you increasingly go into these institutions and you see grandmothers and possibly their grandkids, you're not seeing families, you're not seeing younger people. it's difficult to keep a church alive without the younger element. >> if you're interested in maintaining your faith on a daily basis or weekly basis, you're now forced to your point to go parish-shopping. in washington, you go to holy trinity in the georgetown campus. >> which is where i had my first communion. >> father kevin o'brien. you would go to saint ignatius, on the boston college campus. invariably you you find it's a jesuit presiding over the mass, a jesuit giving the sermon and they are somehow more hooked in to life than unfortunately some of these older parish priests, god love them are in their late 70s and they're all alone. >> i'm with you, michael, i love kevin o'brien is fabulous, a great example and holy trinity is a half hour from my house, it's more of a ride to go there. but when you go there, you feel th

in china, the catholic church in cuba, the catholic church in all nations that are not fully free. >> and it clashes with the government are not-- i mean, they're about corruption, but they're also about the last issues that you're talking about and in this government, first the city of buenos aires approved gay marriage and the government it it on a national basis and he had a lot of struggles with that. >> that's it for our college of cardinals here. when we come back president obama's charm offensive continues as he meets with republicans on capitol hill. is his outreach sincere or an attempt to prop up sagging poll numbers and how should republicans respond. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick me, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, to policies come with new

he is here to help the catholic people restore the catholic church. good for everybody, catholic and otherwise. >> kimberly: bring in bob beckel. >> bob: hey, shep. >> good evening, bob. >> bob: this is jesuits and jesuits are the educator order of catholic church and they spend the most amount of time before they're ordained in the process of becoming a priest. the catholic school system in the united states and for that matter throughout the world has questioned about whether it's going to survive in some cases, in certain cities in the united states. strong enough in areas of the words. is this jesuit background of him indicate he will put emphasis on education -- not just catholic education, but education as part of his message to people? >> his recent history says that is what he will do. i can't know what he will do. i'm not catholic. but my experience with the catholic school system has been as follows -- for instance, in memphis there were two big catholic schools. there is now one. it is designing in membership. this is a man who spent much o

that is a discipline in the catholic church. it's not doctrine. for the first 1,000 years of the church priests married. we have now anglo can priests coming from the anglo can communion into the roman catholic communion. it's being done. there's no reason it can't be done. that is the highest moral barometer, one's countries conscious. >> you said he could but will he based on what we know about him? >> well, again, he has been considered rather conservative with most of these issues thus far. he's already surprised us and broke general tradition. when john xxiii became the pope, everybody thought he would be the transition pope and he called the second vatican council and look what happened. indeed, we can have some surprises come from unexpected places. >> we have seen, as you said, a change in style already. we've seen it from the minute that he was picked to be pope. the cardinals elected him pope in the conclave and we've seen it already this morning. i want to play you tape in case you're just waking up now of the pope's trip to st. peter's

in china, the catholic church in cuba, the catholic church in all nations that are not fully free. >> and it clashes with the government are not-- i mean, they're about corruption, but they're also about the last issues that you're talking about and in this government, first the city of buenos aires approved gay marriage and the government it it on a national basis and he had a lot of struggles with that. >> that's it for our college of cardinals here. when we come back president obama's charm offensive continues as he meets with republicans on capitol hill. republicans on capitol hill. is his outreach sincere or what's droid-smart ? with google now, it automatically knows when you need to leave for the airport, how much traffic there is, and can have your boarding pass ready. the droid razr maxx hd by motorola. droid-smart. droid-powerful. [ sighs ] [ ringing continues, dog barks ] [ male announcer ] staples makes it easier to get everything your business needs. [ dog whimpers ] even paper towels. and now get a scott mega roll paper towel 6 pack for $4.99. staples. that was

i am catholic and go to church every sunday. i don't know this guy.ive me a little time. >> tom, that's how the tv news business works. you don't have to though something to have an opinion. how long have you been doing this show? come on. were you as surprised that the catholic church picked a pope who opposes abortion and gay marriage? >> i am not a catholic, but i do have an opinion. in fact, that's probably why i have an opinion. but listen together liberals talk about the catholic church makes me love the church more. the only thing they hate about the catholic church are the only things i like. to answer your first question, how important is it he is from latin america, it is fantastic. it means we will have a pope mobile with the hydrolic lifts and the tinted windows. >> oh anne, anne. >> right? isn't that cool? >> i condone that. >> why are we talking about dennis rodman? >> we are going to. do you want to talk about dennis rodman? >> he is talking about having gambling while we are picking a pope. >> absolutely. what is wrong with that? >> th

>> the catholic church is not that large. the fact it is from the southern hemisphere might reenergize. >> dr. becker, thank you for providing your insights. >> it is a joy. >> coming up, chrisistians cry t for help i in the m middle off . prayer. >> an egyptian christian held in a libyan jail has died. voice of the martyrs reports he was detained simply for spreading the gospel. akeem suffered from asthma and other ailments. he had been sent to the hospital with chest pains and breathing problems. experienced shortness of breath, died. more bad news for christians in libya. witnesses say unidentified attackers set a benghazi church on fire. security official says forces stopped the attackers before gospel. al-qaeda is on the rise in north africa. in the bull's eye is country of mali. gary lane traveled to the town of diaboli. >> reporter: for more than a fight in mali. 75-year-old villager describes how rebel gun fire frightened him. he has never sxeerns ee ee eed experienced such terror. >> they started selling drugs. >> an

extraordinary day in the catholic church. "nbc nightly news" begins now. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> good evening. he is the first named francis, the first from latin america, the first jesuit. the cardinals of the catholic church voting in secret elected a 76-year-old colleague as the head of their church of over 1 billion people worldwide. tonight, biographers are rushing to fill in the gaps, the details of his life, this man with a degree in chemistry who served as a cardinal in buenos aires where he lived a modest life and is known as something of a champion for the poor. his first act today was one of humility, asking for a blessing in his new role with a deep bow to the audience. he takes over during what our vatican analyst calls a hingepoint for the catholic church. in the midst of a crisis, shaken in this country by an abuse scandal. now anxious to begin a new era starting tonight. we begin with our team covering it all at the vatican. anne thompson was in st. peter's square for the big moment today. anne, good evening. >> re

in germany, believe it's time to have female priests, believe it's time that divorced catholics can remarry in church. and believe in other progressive moves that maybe pope francis could consider. what is your view about changing times, changing moods amongst -- certainly young catholics? >> i don't think that we can expect from pope francis any move along the lines you were just suggesting. as has already been said in your program, pope francis, i think, is very firm on the set catholic teaching, on the very issues you were mentioning. but i think he has a wonderful progressive sense, and in a sort of social area. he's -- as you have said, very, very close to the poor, very vocal in defending the poor, the vast majority of the catholic church now lives in the south america, africa, in the -- and in the part of the world other than europe and north america. and so having that sense of progressive social agenda, looking after the poor, looking after those who are suffering from aids, as you mentioned, his care for those suffering from aids. and just bringing a simplicity. i think a lot of young peopl

it is horrific what the catholic church has done. t been addressed, pa pock r hypocrisy that hasn't been addressed. >> back to monsignor dionne. this pope, given his background as a jesuit, given who the jesuits are and what the jesuit tradition is all about, he could sell some of those paintings in the vatican and pay off the bankrupt parrishishes in this country. given who this pope is, do you believe he could come to north america, he could go to west post, connecticut, in beverly hills, california, and wealthy catholics and remind them at the end of the day, we are all poor, all of us? >> that's a good sermon. you have to go to chris' church! i think that is probably right and he could do all of those. >> i would hate to be -- at the end of mass this morning going to shake the priest's hand but go ahead. >> the guy who didn't live in the big house but lived in the apartment, same is true, of sean o'malley in boston, the guy who takes public transit, this is a guy who clearly understands it may be personal humility but he understan

i guess one would only expect that of a cardinal in the catholic church these days. ertheless, he is someone who has reached beyond the church's borders. and i think that's what makes him so attractive to people. he has decided the best way to reach people is act the way jesus would have acted. what people are hoping that may lead people even though it disagrees with the church's teachings is give the church a hearing. >> one of the words he's used is mercy, talked about god's mercy. even if he is condemning certain acts, he is ready to seek forgiveness and seek god's forgiveness and that has a humanity to it, that i think is very appealing. >> and maybe is helping him establish the connection with the people. let's go to cecilia vega as the pope emerges. what are you sensing? >> just as he walked outside, there was applause from the crowd out here. as you hear this chanting in the background there's a real haunting sense about it in this square right now, a sense that this crowd is about to embark on a very spiritual event, a ceremony from the highest order of the ca

this church in that it is about the people and not about the individual who is leading the church, james. >> catholics like myself love the church. but when speaking prophetically on issues of the day, hopefully whoever is announced in the next 45 minutes, is someone who can unite catholics around the truly repressing challenges of our day. the climate change that affects all of us is what we are talking about. not devices like sexuality. >> chris jansing, let me bring you back in. we hear the bells, see the thick white smoke. the first couple of seconds appeared gray. ed with been there before with uncertainty but can could not be more clear where we are here from the exports you have spoken with, i'm seeing many priest and analysis from your show earlier today, what message does this send that five ballots, two days later, we have a new head of catholic church? >> i think a lot of people are surprised they have come together this quickly. on the other hand, remember, they did not have a period of mourning or a funeral for a pope who had died. once they came to rome, all of these cardinals could conc

how prepared you think the catholic church is to address these issues or, to put it more bluntly, reform? >> there is a strong will in the church, among the hierarchy. that was also clear at the pre- conclave meetings, that there is -- i almost said an almost desperate need to reform. i think particularly from the north americans, who have suffered strongly from me -- the child abuse scandal. it was particularly scandalous in north america, and there is a deep sense the church needs to reform. we are moving now into a close- up of the -- of the balcony. as i say, i'm straining my eyes to see. it has disappeared. i'm straining my eyes to see whether we could see shadows behind the curtain. we should, at any moment -- >> in the meantime, we are seeing lots of cheering, waving people. all as excited about who the new pope is going to be as well as the catholic viewers, all waiting to see the identity of the new pope. you were mentioning earlier that the cardinals conclave -- it has ended much quicker than we thought. >> this is extraordinary. the amount of time that it took -- it is the sam

the catholic church has got a lot of bad publicity. ng in a cel celebrity like mel gibson to give out a psa. celebrity catholics. people don't go to movements, because of the leader, they go because of friends and families. that's how you get people into the church, not because of the new pope. >> i am thinking mel gibson wouldn't be tops on t list. >> that was a joke. >> buzzer beater. michelle obama, on the cover of "vogue" opening up about the president and life in the white house, following in the footsteps of hillary clinton who graced the cover as first lady in 1998. and a growing movement to brick these two women together in 2016. a former clinton spokeswoman tells the washington examiner they would be "a dream team." the website, cafe press reportedly saying sales of bumper stickers like this one, touting a hillary/michelle ticket have surged 60%. we know the whole thing is ridiculous, but we want to have fun. will this trounce the competition in 2016? will. >> so you asked me would it? the answer is no. that's asking me essenti

we were talking about the catholic church.as faced a series of crises, not least the amount of abuse covered up over the years and so on. do you expect pope francis to tackle this head-on? he's known as a pretty tough guy back in argentina, confronting many issues in his own country. do you think he's going to go after this? >> i have no doubt that this is a man who, as you heard talk about, is very much committed to doing the right thing. to standing up for the truth and for making sure that people are held to account, and to holiness, i think, a couple of your commentators said. so this has clearly been a problem within the church. they were very slow to respond, and did some very wrong things. and i am hopeful that this is a man who will set the procedures right so things like that cannot happen again. >> he's been reported tonight, amongst other publications, "the guardian" back in britain, a reputable newspaper, as having a position on contraception that's quite interesting, in that he believes it is permissible to view c

anybody that we talked to across the board say the catholic church is in crisis. eeds a strong leader to reunify the church. the next pope, it is expected, will be the most vetted ever. >> reporter: in the politics of becoming pope, there's never been a race quite like this. the church's problems, enormous. the need for a powerful, unifying pope, never greater. >> we have to finish this, we have to get on with this. if we don't do this, it's over. blow the candles out. >> reporter: the new pope will have to einvigorate the church and bring the enormous bureaucracy, the curia into the fold. we're talking nuts and bolts? >> the church does not run on hail marys. we've got to make it work in terms of personnel and money and being effective. i think the question is how effective is the curia in an internet 24/7 world. >> reporter: from the time a card nam become ace cardinal the race for pope son. they're judged on their intellectual, religious and spiritual heft and even their ability to communicate in italian. politicking done, support secured in formal settings and

hello and welcome to cross talk we're all things are considered on peter lavelle the catholic church has a new leader of pope francis from argentina and jesuit you see mr dramatic even bold departure from the past can this simple man of humble origins reverse the fortunes of a church in crisis and what can the world expect from a pope hate when from the global south. cross not the recent election i'm joined by sister my report in london she is a religious sister and a founding member of catholic woman's ordination in atlanta we have diane doddery she is an ordained minister in the association of roman catholic women priests and in on a well we cross to john henry weston he is the co-founder and editor in chief of life site news dot com all right folks cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want sister myra we have a new pope is he the right man at the right time with the right message i to know much about sorry i don't know much about him but he seems a radical choice at the moment but we'll find out ok diane you want to die and you want to answer the same

the world is rapidly changing and that the catholic church has failed to keep pace sure it has seen a fair number of ups and downs. in its two thousand year long history but there is opinion that perhaps taking on pleasant development sweeping it under the carpet and sealing it with the people ring. is a tradition better left in the past in rome. are. a bad balance for israel but could have deadly consequences america is pro israel and watching the men think they could see the. wrong. way. the u.s. looks to tighten the screws on iran with more sanctions we look at what's really behind pressure coming from capitol hill. there are twelve cities in the united states in which half of the people live with . this is a problem. it was like the big elephant in the room and nobody wanted to talk about it they were really good public health campaigns if people really focused on this problem you certainly should be able have a lot less h.l.v. a lot less human suffering. you're watching the weekly here on our israel could become the first ever country to be formally designated as the united state

tonight the americans -- 78 million catholics in america are hopeful that this new pope can lead the churcha new direction -- out of scandal and mismanagement. u.s. catholics greeted the election of pope francis i with bells and in new york's st. patrick's cathedral, applause. at our lady of angels in los angeles the announcement was made in english and spanish. this latin american pope could help reach out to u.s. hispanics. 54% of whom identified as catholic in a recent gallup poll. >> latinos in the united states feel extremely proud this day. they see this man as a person that modernized the church in argentina and did so with a firm hand. they expect he will do the same right now from the vatican. >> reporter: a sentiment also expressed in miami. >> it's wonderful that we finally have a pope that can represent, you know, a large piece of community, the latinos and, you know, a lot of people who need the support. >> reporter: others voiced hope the new pope can reach out to disenchanted church members here in the united states. >> i'm rehema ellis at st. patrick's cathedral in new york

changes of how the church of rome deals with the everyday life of those who apostle of the it's ministry well the new pope francis certainly has many challenges facing him leading catholics at a time when the church is facing a deep crisis besides being marred in number of recent mismanagement corruption and even sex scandals the church is also facing aggressive competition from competition from islam which is spreading across europe faster than the christian church gets new members with a number of muslims growing by an estimated eighty six percent in recent years and the number of christians growing by five percent winning back the continent will be one of the most daunting tasks for the new pope we've got more on the church crisis on our website including all theories as to why pope benedict sixteenth stepped down and the value leaks and all that and more a click away on our t.v. dot com. turning to some of the day's other top stories he's seen by many as one of the world's most renowned whistleblowers but an enemy of the state by the u.s. government now soldier bradley manning can be heard news own words explaining why he sent hundreds of thousands of classified docu

and live from moscow this is our team glad to have you back with us now the catholic church witnessed history this week as pope benedict the sixteenth officially resigned something a pope hasn't done for six hundred years and as the church remains a leaderless internal divisions and a marred reputation mean that many are losing faith eroding the church's foundation archy's reports. it's not just about selecting a new bishop of rome some say but the very future of the catholic church the catholic church is undergoing a very important prizes it is a crisis at two levels is the government tries this entity is it tries itself the believes there was a lack of leadership which culminated in the great scandals of about the leaks far from the splendor of the sistine chapel a closer look at the recent events in the vatican to highlight disillusionment and frustration with the church among some about the i distanced myself from the church when i became an adult when i started talking about what had been talking with specially after all the scandals broke out in the catholic church and i realize

and what we can expect for the roman catholic church. hn allen, cnn senior vatican analysts. >>> coming up, we'll speak with anne barrett doyle. she is part of a watchdog group that documents sexual abuse on the church. her thoughts on pope francis and how he will address this scandal. >>> a second term and a second "vogue" cover for first lady michelle obama. what she say about her marriage when we come back. for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer, be ready. for high fever, nothing works faster or lasts longer. be ready with children's motrin. i use bounce outdoor fresh sheets because they're just that much fresher and they help keep static off in the cold so my clothes will never embarrass me. mommy, i dressed the snowman! how do you get your bounce? less static year-round. departure. hertz gold plus rewards also offers ereturn-- our fastest way to return your car. just note your mileage and zap ! you're outta there ! we'll e-mail your receipt

the catholic church isn't. struggling with majority it's not catching up to the times yes atheism is definitely one of the major problems for for catholics right now but there is also issues such as. wars again homosexuality premarital sex all of that is something that a lot of specialists in the area are saying francis now has to look at and take some steps if he wants to keep the catholic church. ridiculous because there now to some other news making headlines across the globe reports are emerging that two consecutive bomb blasts have gone off in the browser region of iraq ten people are believed to been killed and many more injured after a car bomb exploded near a bus terminal in a shiite area of the country no one was injured in the second blast it comes just days before the tenth anniversary of the iraq invasion according to new reports the conflict has cost the lives of at least one hundred twelve thousand civilians over the last decade. the news here has witnessed its biggest rally since they're just one

all that reliable member of your resume then there probably is not going to be a euro zone the catholic church made history this week as benedict the sixteenth of fishery resigned something upon the present done for six hundred years and as the church remains leaderless internal divisions and a damaged reputation mean that many are losing faith going to explain. it's not just about selecting a new bishop of rome some say but the very future of the catholic church the catholic church is undergoing a very important tries this it is a crisis at two levels it is a government crisis and it is a crisis of the believers there was a lack of leadership which culminated in the great scandals of but the leaks are far from the splendor of the sistine chapel a closer look at the recent events in the vatican to highlight disillusionment and frustration with the church once all about i distanced myself from the church when i became an adult when i started talking about what had been taught and was eventually after all the scandals broke out in the catholic church and i realize that it doesn't represent my sp

hopefully in the next hour, we will see who the new leader of the catholic church will be. brian? >> as we said, really -- the the catholics do this unlike any other religion. and it must be said, the era of the big screen television on the plaza has changed things a little bit. in the past, conclaves that you and i remember, it was very difficult when the new pope comes forward to see. and the crowd relied on word of mouth spreading back and the loud speakers eventually. now at least in high definition television, when those curtains open, when those doors open, these thousands of people, especially those who have memorized their charts of the short list, will know who this is. >> reporter: you know, brian, people have their one, two, three, four big screen tvs that i can see within my eyesight here. but really tonight all eyes were focused up on the roof of the sistine chapel. i mean that's where people were looking. from our vantage point here, we have a pretty clear shot. i can tell you now, they are all going to focus now on what's the blessing where we will first hear the fr

from argentina to appreciate the importance of this day in history. >> it is a change for the catholic church. of course, as a san franciscans i am a progressive catholic and we would like to see more great things come out of the catholic church. today is hope for that. >> reporter: back out here live, they have been watching coverage of the selection of the pope on the big screen here today and today we spoke to a man who just moved to the u.s. from argentina. he was familiar with cardinal jorge mario bergoglio. live in san francisco, eric rasmussen, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> vice president joe biden is expected to lead the u.s. delegation to the pope's installation mass next tuesday. according to reports, pope benedict xvi doesn't plan to attend. in 2005, jeb bush headed the delegation. president obama offered warm wishes to pope francis i. he said i look forward to working with him to advance peace, security and dignity, regardless of faith. >>> we are learning the pope francis i is scheduled to meet with pope benedict xvi tomorrow. the meeting will take place that papal retreat south of ro