gavin ashenden, catholic layman and editor of the catholic herald . editor of the catholic herald.evening, gavin . hello, good evening, gavin. hello, beth. good evening. good evening. i was it sensible to think of kate forbes to come out with these views at this time .7 i with these views at this time? i think it's political suicide . think it's political suicide. but but the trouble is she went into politics as a christian and she is a christian and she happens believe as all christians do do, that marriage is best between a man and a woman . and it seems to me that's woman. and it seems to me that's about only view that our liberal, pluralistic won't allow . oh, i think there's lots of views that are currently allowed , but daisy crazy, right ? she , but daisy crazy, right? she says. well, these are only my personal views. it wouldn't affect any policy . that can't be affect any policy. that can't be affect any policy. that can't be a genuine can it? no, of course it is, because everybody has their preferred moral outlook . their preferred moral outlook. but there are very people

gavin ashenden, catholic layman and editor of the catholic herald . editor of the catholic herald.evening, gavin . hello, good evening, gavin. hello, beth. good evening. good evening. i was it sensible to think of kate forbes to come out with these views at this time .7 i with these views at this time? i think it's political suicide . think it's political suicide. but but the trouble is she went into politics as a christian and she is a christian and she happens believe as all christians do do, that marriage is best between a man and a woman . and it seems to me that's woman. and it seems to me that's about only view that our liberal, pluralistic won't allow . oh, i think there's lots of views that are currently allowed , but daisy crazy, right ? she , but daisy crazy, right? she says. well, these are only my personal views. it wouldn't affect any policy . that can't be affect any policy. that can't be affect any policy. that can't be a genuine can it? no, of course it is, because everybody has their preferred moral outlook . their preferred moral outlook. but there are very people