god or prayer or virtue or faith, uh-oh. they are going to get the message that this isn't all that important, okay? that's the jeepous of not just catholicligion be just conviction as by the way all of american schools used to be. okay? pete: correct. >> christmas message, as we look ahead to the new year folks, don't forget to look in the rear view mirror. it's very often in the rear view mirror that we see god's action in our life. the year that is ending, a lot of adversity, a lot of sadness, a lot of set back and heartache. okay? but when we look back, we are also going to express gratitude and praise to god that he got us through. and that he inspired sacrificial generous people to come through when we needed it most. we are going to see his hand there. and we are going to see his hand in 2021. that's the message of christmas. because, to borrow from our jewish neighbors, emanuel, god is with us. katie: cardinal dolan, you know, there are a lot of people having a hard time holding on to faith right now given the year that they have had. they are having a hard time seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. what is your message to th