thank you, cathy griffin. cathy's new book, "official book club selection" that is the title is in book stores now. >> yes. >> thanks, cathy. >> i'm a little nervous, 'cause we have just done one of our, as joy calls blocks and she mentioned being stunard. i don't know what that is, but i have a little diarrhea thinking about that. >>> earlier this week, i had a chance to talk to bette midler who made history as johnny carson's last guest. ♪ long road [ applause ] >> one of great moments in television. now she is my first guest. here is hoping the magic continues. bette midler, thank you, honey, for coming on this show. it sort of tears us up when we see that, doesn't it? >> maybe you. for me, i am all smiles. once in a while, i get misty-eyed. he was a wonderful guy. he did so much for me. so much for so many people that i know. >> i never got on his show. >> that's too damn bad. >> who cares. i am sorry he is dead and everything. >> here you have a show of your own. congratulations. >> let's not talk about h

i didn't mean to interruptou, but i did want cathy schoen to have a chance to respond to that that >>t about making insurance markets work inhe puic interest. therare very rh example e netherlds, gmany, and switrland. they've aually made a decision to have multiple competing private surance plans, but they did it a far different way than we do. everyone has to be includ, as we hea, in the netherlands. you can' turn anyone down. the price ll notary except by the benefit pacge, whetr you're sick or no sick. and when you ope an array o choices andnç these countries, it's easy to cose because you don't ha to worry about insunce surprises where there's just not a benefit that you really ne that wil be covered. there's much more iformity. and it makes theseçmarkets wor. ey really-- when pele move, theyook very hard athe overhead of insurance carriers, which is much lower an the united stes. wee, bar moing the most complex. it's estimed we spend about $90 billn per year in excess overhe just because of the complexity. so think we can see other models that dot complely replace the insurance

police cathy lanier and her officers packed a courtroom seeking justice for the man who killed officer oliver smith, jr. donovan strictland want as judge to reconsider his life sentence. the officer's family feels victimized all over again. >> what i'd like to see is for them to keep their promise. and my hope is that justice will prevail and that what was given, let it stay. >> reporter: in 1998 strictland's attorney says just richard suter who is now retired agreed for a wink and nod deal. the deal he would reconsider strictland's life sentence later reducing it to all about 50 years suspended. >> the suggestion there was a wink and a nod agreement is an astounding allegation. the first time in my career i've ever heard something along those lines. ithink it raises the issue again as to whether we should have reconsideration at all in maryland. >> reporter: the judge testified there was no deal. jonathan strictland says that's not what his broker understood- - >> broker understood-- >> brother understood. >> from the advice of his lawyer, he felt that this proposal was going to be th

cathy in florida. hi, cathy. >> caller: hi, nancy. i just want to say my mother and i love your show, your beautiful children, and our prayers are with your mother. i have a question about the storm door. if misty got up and seen the storm door open, held open by a block, was the inside door held open also, or -- i just don't understand that part. >> to rosy in the control room. see if you can pull up that video of marlaina in the home showing us that door. marlaina schiavo, while we wait for that, explain. >> the answer to that is, no, she wouldn't have seen it immediately because the inside door closed automatically. the only theory that we have, and it's only a theory, is maybe the inside door was propped open with some laundry on the floor maybe holding it open. so that's where we are with that. >> you're seeing the inside of the home. there's the video of marlaina's tour of the home. just keep that rolling, because in a moment we'll see marlaina walk to that back door. that was allegedly propped open. cher in illinois. hi, cher.

cathy in florida. >> caller: hi, nancy. my mother and i love your show, your beautiful children and our prayers are with your mother. if mist i got up and seen the storm door open held open by a block, was the inside door held open also, or -- i just don't understand that part. >> to rosy in the control program. see if you can pull up that video of marlaina in the home. >> the answer to that is, no, she wouldn't have seen it immediately because the inside door closed automatically. the only theory that we have, and it's only a theory, is maybe the inside door was propped open with some laundry on the floor maybe holding it open. so that's where we are with that. >> you're seeing the inside of the home. there's the video of marlaina's tour of the home. just keep that rolling, because in a moment we'll see marlaina walk to that back door. cher in illinois. hi, cher. >> caller: hi, nancy. love your show. >> thank you for calling in. >> caller: praying for your mom. >> thank you. >> caller: got a question regarding misty. with

cathy lanier and her officers packed a prince george county courtroom seeking justice for the man whoilled officer oliver smith junior. donovan strickland wants a judge to reconsider the life sentence. the officer's family feels victimized all over again. >> what i would like to see is for them to keep their promise and my hope is that justice will prevail and that what was given let it stay. >> in 1998, strickland's attorney said judge richard southern who is retired agree to a wink and nod deal during a meeting with the defense and prosecutor. the deal, woe reconsider strickland's life sentence later, reducing it to 50 years suspended. >> the setion that there was a wink and a nod agreement is an astonishing allegation, the first time in my career that i heard something along those lines. it raises the issue again as to whether we should have reconsideration at all. >> reporter: judge sutherland said there was no deal. >> from his advice of his lawyer, he felt that this proposal was going to be there for him. >> reporter: transcripts from the plea show the judge was inclined to reco

. >> cathy we know the family are experienced weather chasers in the summer months. is that what this balloon was intended for ? >> i don't know that. >> do you have any information of what falcon may be wear something. >> no, i don't. >> any idea what he is wearing? >> not at this time. >> they were doing an experiment. they had hovered around the ground a little bit. >> possibly. i can't confirm that right now. >> how is the family? is the family able to give information or are they too distressed. >> no. they are able to give information. richard is talking on the phone with different agencies involved with this type of experimentation. >> do you know how high the balloon reached at all? >> no. that i don't. but it's pretty high. >> cathy i understand the school district was off for elementary students. is that why falcon was at home? >> probably. i believe so. >> did the father know falcon was in the basket when it took off? >> no. because he was in the house. the son is the one that came in and told them that his brother climbed in the basket when it took off an

. >> i'm cathy ormon. >> we will be right back with the real kathy griffin, or will we? find out what i mean when we return. >>> earlier this week, i had a chance to talk to bette midler who made history as johnny carson's last guest. ♪ long road >> one of great moments in television. now she is my first guest. here is hoping the magic continues. bette midler, thank you, honey, for coming on this show. it sort of tears us up when we see that, doesn't it? >> maybe you. for me, i am all smiles. once in a while, i get misty-eyed. he was a wonderful guy. he did so much for me. so much for so many people that i know. >> not me. i never got on his show. >> that's too damn bad. maybe you didn't deserve to get on -- >> who cares. i am sorry he is dead and everything. >> here you have a show of your own. congratulations. >> let's not talk about him. >> he was a great guy. you will have a great run. >> i hope so. i am glad that you are my first guest and you were his last. one more question about him. do you think he ever wanted to leave? >> i think some people really want to and

cathy in florida. hi, cathy. >> caller: hi, nancy. i just want to say my mother and i love your show, your beautiful children, and our prayers are with your mother. i have a question about the storm door. if misty got up and seen the storm door open, held open by a block, was the inside door held open also, or -- i just don't understand that part. >> to rosy in the control room. see if you can pull up that video of marlaina in the home showing us that door. marlaina schiavo, while we wait for that, explain. >> the answer to that is, no, she wouldn't have seen it immediately because the inside door closed automatically. the only theory that we have, and it's only a theory, is maybe the inside door was propped open with some laundry on the floor maybe holding it open. so that's where we are with that. >> you're seeing the inside of the home. there's the video of marlaina's tour of the home. just keep that rolling, because in a moment we'll see marlaina walk to that back door. that was allegedly propped open. cher in illinois. hi, cher.

cathy in ohio. your thoughts. >> caller: mike, i'm glad you got me. mike brooks, okay, i'm tired of children being hurt. there is no excuse for it ever. why can't the country let the minor drug dealers out of jail and put every one of the child -- people who hurt a child, put them in jail forever. i live alone. down the street from me has a house with four or five rapists. why should i be afraid of my house being out in the front yard? why should i have to be that way? i don't like driving down the street because they are down there. >> cathy, thanks. whether it is phillip garrido getting out of jail too soon. we all become furious. >> absolutely. people ask me that all the time. mike, why aren't these people in jail? they don't have enough jails to put everyone in. some of the minor offenses, that is up to the criminal justice system. the cops go out there, they lock these predators up, they put them in jail and then they do their good time and they do their time and get off on good time and are back out on the streets. we know the recidivist rate is

for example, friday joy was chatting with comedian cathy griffin. >> i want to be jennifer aniston theny life would be better and i would be happy. >> do you think she is happy? she didn't have a boyfriend. >> i want to be somebody from "the hills." i want to be a kardashian. >> no you don't. >> i want to be chloe. you thought i would say kim. >> you know what, i don't even know who they are. >> catch "the joy wehar show at 9:00 p.m. men >>> all righty. let us look at the morning papers. "washington post" reports that president obama has postponed a meeting with the dollalai lama s week. the first time since 1991 that a sitting president will not meet with a spiritual leader while in d.c. >>> a record number of people are applying for home heating assistance. the demand is up as much as 25% in some places but there's no extra mrn money in the federal budget. >>> think twice before you trust an online review. the average grade is 4.3 out of 5 and in response ebay made 4.3 its minimum service. some sites are switching to thumb's up or thumb's down. >>> the former fiance of a cast member o

it is unfortunate host: cathy gannon of the associated press has a piece this morning in the "washingtonimes" about u.s. aid to pakistan. there is a full article in the "washington times" in case you're interested in reading the whole thing. newark, what you think about afghanistan? caller: i think the president to deal with it. that is what i have got to say. host: larry, rocky mountain, n.c., independent. caller: i will try to make it short. we had at the window of opportunity to go in there and take care of business eight, nine years ago. we did not do it. when things get messed up so bad, there is no getting it right. afghanistan is the type of worar -- our military is now a defensive force. we do not have a lot of troops. i do not know what is wrong with those generals. a lot of times people say, listen to those generals. a lot of times those guys will get you in trouble because they are trained to go in and win at all cost. they do not want to lose. we have to look at this in a smart way. and just tell the american people the thing is unwinnable now. we had to go there to keep amer