let's move on to cathy gordon. >> we may be able to stipulate to her. >> microphone. >> we may be able to stipulate to our participation. chairperson hur: why is it even relevant that she took the sheriff's firearms? >> it was pertinent to the degree to which he was cooperating. law enforcement officers are bound to cooperate. this is an instance where, and this relates to whether his conduct fell below the standard expected of a chief law- enforcement officer. he will be fully forthcoming and fully respect the investigation conducted by another agency. sure if -- the sure if -- the sheriff agreed that he would turn over his fire arms. he turned over his guns to a subordinate in his own department so that you had a share of -- sheriff keeping his weapons. chairperson hur: let's take a short recess. >> we are now back in session. i understand the sheriff's deputy is in the room and has an announcement. >> [inaudible] >> thank you. before we adjourned, we were discussing -- i believe he was in the middle of his remarks. >> the other aspect of why the issue of what happens with the firear