in december, i went down to caton with some friends during my break. i asked her if she wanted to come with me. she said she needed some time alone. so she said she was going to stay in johannesburg. she wanted to spend christmas with some friends of hers. the friends of hers cancelled their plans and went away. and so christmas night she had christmas with her and mr. frisco and mr. frisco's girlfriend at the time. in the next day, i flew down to capetown and i was scheduled to come back on the 2nd of january and i think the 1st of january of 2013, reeva phoned me and asked if she could come down instead of me coming up, could she come down. during the time i was in capetown, she wanted to get away. she asked if she could stay at my house and so she said at my home and we were still getting to know each other and comfortable with each other. and then in mid january everything started to pick up and we really -- that's really when your relationship got going. >> now, would you say that there was a point where it became more serious, the relationship? a