joining us is caton dawson and akeep jeffreys who spoke eloquently against the confederate flag at theebate and bob herbert still with us here on set. caton dawson that speech we played a clip of from rick perry saying basically the republican party gave up on trying to win the black vote and lost its moral legitimacy he's saying by doing that. how widespread is that view in the republican party versus the view that previewed in the last few decades the idea of we don't need the black vote to win? >> rick perry has legitimacy saying that being 14 years as governor of texas one that got close to 40% of the hispanic vote in the last race and one that understands i've worked for him now, one that understands republican party has got to get bigger, has a message that can resonate and once you get to know rick perry you understand that's kind of who he is. he's from paint creek, texas, 1300 people in a small town. he's been traveling in south carolina for the last year so i think he said a lot of people will be thinking and it takes courage to do it. i've seen some the complaints and rhetor