, environmental, you know tomorrow there will be no more sun and then i wrote a song called cauley lee wilkins is free. and cauley lee wilkins was a, a, he shot um, a civil rights worker, a civil rights activist, i wrote a song about civil rights, as a member of the sun donuts and it was uh the time that topical songs are really big and folk music was like pop, you know all the folk, folk rocks... >> like bob dylan. >> bob dylan, joni mitchell, the byrds, crosby, stills, nash, & young, you know all these bands were, had political kind of uh lyrics and they were uh, some of them were very overtly political >> one of the songs on your new album, mister sister, caused a, kind of a stir in the trans community. they said it was stereotypical. were you surprised by that reaction? >> i was very surprised. i was very taken aback because i thought it was very uh, positive, sort of gender positive towards anyone i said that it was about anyone who was a self- you know expanding and tran--, and making a transition, anyone who felt betrayed by the mirror. so i meant it to be all inclusive. >> and that's a