let's bring in at this point jim cavanaugh. among our very finest panlts we call on him all too often of late because we call on him anytime there has been a mass casualty event. jim is a retired special agent in charge at atf, a 30-year veteran there. he worked on among others the unabomber case, the olympic bombing. the d.c. sniper investigation. let's just talk dimensions here. people have been asking about the line of sight distance between the room on the 32nd floor in the mandalay bay hotel and the event going on. we have a computer graphic to show it. knowing something about the caliber of the weapons that they have found that he was like ly using, is it a tough shot and does that explain why the shooting seemed indiscriminate? do you think he was using a sight? do you think he was as they say spraying gunfire? >> well, he was shooting into an area, brian, like he had a field of fire, military officers, you know, set their fields of fire on the high ground to, you know, keep the enemy back, to be able to use less personn

before his appointment judge cavanaugh serve for more than five years in the white house in began as the associate counsel and was assistant to the president up until the time of his appointment. throughout his career he has been a partner in private practice and an attorney in the office of the solicitor general with the number of distinguished judges that he clerked for and a graduate of yale college and also yale law school please join me to welcome our distinguished lecturer of 2017 brought cavanaugh. [applause] >>. >> thanks general for that kind introduction i am honored to be here to deliver the lecture as general meade said having a profound influence as the supreme court justice and as a scholar i am honored to deliver a lecture in his name and particularly honored to be here with speakers justice kennedy and thomas and my former colleague i have not been a regular attendee at the lecture the last few years because every year seems to follow the same night as a basketball tryout's i coach in d.c.. they sure i finally pulled rank and then moved it back one night so tonight i

. >>> joining us now is karen cavanaugh, senior market strategist at voya investment management. karen, good to have you back. it looks like corporate earnings overall are going to be pretty good. why don't we start with that. what do you see as the overall, when we get through the whole thing, what do you see as the growth rate for the third quarter year over year? >> i think the party is going to keep on rolling. we may not see double digit growth. but we're going to see high mid-single digit growth. we'll probably end up around 7, 8% growth for the third quarter earnings. that's pretty darn good. >> is that because the comparisons are easy for some sectors? or is it because, you know, corporations are really firing on all cylinders, or maybe a combination of the two? >> i think a combination of the two. in the energy sector, yes, the comparisons are pretty low from the third quarter of 2016. so it makes it a little bit of a lower bar to jump over. we've seen an increase in commodity prices, helping the energy sector. sectors like the tech sector are really benefiting from that

for more we're joined by jim cavanaugh, nbc analyst and retired atf special agent.ake of the raw number of guns here. >> what sticks out to me more than the number is the number that he carried to the hotel room. you know, i've seen lots of people in my atf career with lots of guns, lots of collectors and people like to shoot and hunt and own guns and trade guns. all legitimate owners. lots of people like that. but to carry 23 guns and 22 of those are long guns to the 32nd floor of a hotel room with some tripod mounts and ammunition and in ten suitcases, that six out to me more than anything than just the ownership of the total number of guns. >> jim, one thing i've been wondering about on that and we'll know this eventually. how many days was he checked into that hotel. let's say he was there for four days, five days. that gives him plenty of time to bring those things in diskreetel one or two a day of a case carrying that kind of weapon, but if it's just one day, if it's just that day, if he had to get them all up there relatively quickly, that's when it becomes s

. >>> joining me now, msnbc law enforcement analyst, jim cavanaugh. jim, regardless whether this turns into an act of terrorism or not, here's the question. it highlights how vulnerable public spaces are. is there anything that can be done to help protect these areas? >> whether this is an accident, like you said, or terrorism, it seems like they're leaning towards it's an accident or a guy with a stolen car or hit and run or something, the preparations for a possible vehicle attack have probably kept death and injury down even if it's just an accident or stolen car. there's large cement ballards in front of the national history museum. i've been to that museum, i've walked that sidewalk. it's a beautiful place. it's a leafy, upscale neighborhood and a lot of people go there. those cement ballards coming out of the sidewalk, they can prevent vehicles and trucks from successfully driving down the pathway like we saw in nice, france. so it even helps when you have a driver trying to flee a crime or a drunken driver or a reckless driver or some berserk p

. >> reporter: tonya cavanaugh knows better to take chances with her health. she's a nurse and has a lung condition. >> if it gets much worse, are we going to have to move temporarily out of the area to get where it's not so smoky? >> reporter: the air quality prompted the closing of schools. >> this is the worst i've ever seen, and this is the worst air quality the bay area has ever had. >> reporter: the chief medical officer at stat med urgent care says the smoke is carrying invisible particles that can harm your lungs. >> if you can't breathe, call 911. >> reporter: to protect yourself, he recommends an n-95 mask. >> make sure it's tight on the nose. most have two straps to create a tight seal. >> reporter: still, the best bet is to stay indoors. >> i'll go ride my bike about 30 miles, but i haven't done that. >> reporter: bay area hospitals have been treating people with breathing problems. in concord, katie marzullo, "abc7 news." >>> hundreds of flights at san francisco international airport were affected by the wildfires. the smoke is causing delays for

. >> reporte tonya cavanaugh knows better to take chances with herhealth. she's a nurse and has aung condition. >> if it gets much worse, are we going to have to move temporarily out of the area to get where it's not so oky? >> reporter: the air quali prompted thelosing of schools. >> this is the worst i've ever quality the bay area has ever r had. >> reporter: the chief medical officer at stat med urgent care says the smoke is carrying invisible particles that can harm yr lungs. >> if you can't brthe, call 911. >> reporter: to protect yourself, h recommends an n-95 mask. >> make sure it's tight on the se. most have two straps to create a tight seal. >> reporter: still, the best bet is to stay indoors. >> i'll go ride my bike about 30 miles, but i haven't done that. >> reporter: bay area hospitals have been treating people with breathing problems. in concordkatie rzullo, "abc7 news." >>> hundreds of flights at san francisco international airport were aected by the wildfires. the smoke is causing dels for about one in four flights at sfo. wait times are up t

is jim cavanaugh still with us? we should talk about this point.im, we've been talking about weapons. you're our weapons guy. first of all, i'm curious when you first heard the sound of these rounds, what did you think? and what -- what would the -- that sound indicate we were talking about here? >> sounded like a submachine gun to me. sounded like a fully automatic, you know, man portable machine gun, like a 223, like a soldier would carry, select fire usually. that's fully automatic fire there. that could be achieved in a variety of ways. the most common way, of course, is to have a submachine gun. the second way is what you were just discussing with defense counsel there is to have a semi-automatic gun originally made as a semi-automatic gun that's converted, re-engineered to be fully automatic. that usually is criminally done. atf enforces that law. but that can be done. there are some other ways to get fire like that. one is called a bump stock, and it puts out fire that sounds the same as a machine gun, but you actually are pulling the trigge

. >> with us to talk about what we've heard, jim cavanaugh, a retired atf special agent in charge and former hostage negotiator himself. jim, i'm guessing you're going to tell me that's how it's done. >> that's how it done. it can't be done better. las vegas metro s.w.a.t. did textbook case and also patrol. you had the sheriff on talking about putting rifles. we called that s.w.a.t. light where patrol officers can get a vest on, get a rifle and respond to the emergency. likely they got up there to the 29th floor, swat is coming, they kind of located him in that floor, they got a static position then swat can come in. remember you have to breach the door. people don't think about things like that but a guy locks the door, how do you get in? the s.w.a.t. commander radioed to tell everybody on the floor, that would be patrol officers, s.w.a.t. light not just his s.w.a.t. team because it's a large hotel sew the perimeter was probably large outside of the s.w.a.t. operators and they'll breach and see if they got a reaction. was he going to kill himself? we haven't heard the fact of he migh

. >> reporter: tonya cavanaugh knows better to take chances with her health. she's a nurse and has a lung condition. >> if it gets much worse, are we going to have to move temporarily out of the area to get where it's not so smoky? >> reporter: the air quality prompted the closing of schools. >> this is the worst i've ever seen, and this is the worst air quality the bay area has ever had. >> reporter: the chief medical officer at stat med urgent care says the smoke is carrying invisible particles that can harm your lungs. >> if you can't breathe, call 911. >> reporter: to protect yourself, he recommends an n-95 mask. >> make sure it's tight on the nose. most have two straps to create a tight seal. >> reporter: still, the best bet is to stay indoors. >> i'll go ride my bike about 30 miles, but i haven't done that. >> reporter: bay area hospitals have been treating people with breathing problems. in concord, katie marzullo, "abc7 news." >>> hundreds of flights at san francisco international airport were affected by the wildfires. the smoke is causing delays for

i'd like to bring in retired atf special agent in charge, jim cavanaugh, joining us now. you've been with us for the better part of the last hour analyzing the scenes that we've been seeing, some of the sounds that we've been hearing from a lot of the user-generated content from concertgoers or what news camera footage captured. give us your initial assessment in terms of how you've seen this play out. what have you learned from the information i was relaying to you? >> reporter: from the witnesses we heard, talking on camera to msnbc and nbc reporters, watching them talk about what they heard and saw and to video posted on msnbc and various national media sites, you can hear the submarine gun fire, and say it could be, it might be -- no, it absolutely is submarine gun fire. and you're reporting around the world, you've heard it clearly. when you listen to the clips, there will be no doubt in your mind, the trigger is held down, and the rounds empty out. it sounded to me like there was four -- could be five, maybe three to five magazines, 30 rounds each. there's a delay i

ayman mohyeldin, you have a question for jim cavanaugh? >> yeah n terms of the position of where this gunman was, the fact that he's in an elevated position -- now that we're getting a scope of how big the death toll is, the injury toll, does that suggest that this individual had cased the building before and knew how to vantage point overlooking a strategic area where this crowd is going to be? it does not seem he would have randomly picked this location at this time. >> that's a great question. i would agree with you, in my estimation, he already had scoped out that area and knew where he wanted to be and where he wanted to shoot at. he could have been totally random. the fact also tell in other wo wanting to shoot at any pedestrians from any elevated position kind of like the texas tower in the 60s. but more likely than not he had a real design on this crowd, this purpose to go up there, bring in guns. i kind of think he knew where he wanted to be at this specific time. the concert was just ending. it's almost like he was laying there i

. >> the producer of today's game is eric billing meyer the director is renardo lowe and andy cavanaugh and mark sampter and white cal b and scott white man and ken trevor our spotter and our technical director michael lang and leading our team is markos myers. >> go ahead. >> you go ahead. >> nice job by brewer there to create something, just the element of having a mobile quarterback is such a big deal and then any league, and certainly this conference and oftentimes he is the guy not accounted for. >> brewer wide open and to tyler james. >> had two guys wide open there. this is something now u -- on the os yu side and you don't wa them to freak out in the moment. play with big eyes and do your job. >> games like this help both teams down the stretch because guys are playing time in conference games and we all know the attrition that happens in college football,a need a lot of these guys. brewer wants to dive back at the line of scrimmage. looks like he might lose a yard. comi coming up on 1:30 to go. oklahoma state leading 59-16. on the day when six players -- seven players have scor

james cavanaugh that joins us, you have been with us the last four, analyzing the seens, the sounds, i should say, a lot of the yuser generated content, footage, able to capture for us. i want you to give us initial assessment in terms of how they play out. what have you been able to play out. watch them talk on camera to msnbc recordings there, to watching them various national media sites. it is very clear, it is machine gun fire, police say it could be, might be, no, it absolutely is sub machine gun fire, when you listen to the clips, there is no doubt, to hear the rounds empty out. it sounded to me like there was four, could be five, maybe three to five magazines, about 30 rounds each. there is a delay between the magazines, that is when the people get up, try to run. when they don't hear the shooting, it is likely the shooter is changing magazines. joe friar in the mandalay bay, a great vant angle point. another shows the front of the casino, if this shooter was shooting from an elevated position, and didn't have access to the roof, that means they were shooting through a window

we're going to turn out to jim cavanau cavanaugh.s before. this is going on two hours where we've seen police trying to find the other shooters. tell us your view of the scene. >> there's multiple witnesses that are talking about the berofd earnin-- i listened to i watched it a few times. at 17 yong fear, it is so machine gunfire. from a fully semi-automatic rifle, 17 gun we call it. machine gun we just carry it. when you listen to it, quickly listen to it. it sounds like some might be emptying a 30 round pound bag of machine. change there's some semi-automatic fire after that. could be semi-automatic rifle fire after that. >> it doesn't mean necessarily that there's two weers. you have time to analyze it. but you could have son of the ma nudeness for him. that's situation to a sen of that is less vag guess his team. and as you have reported to us, the police confirmed one shooter is down. that might mean a peented o 2k58. all you have to do is worry about them wearing a through i sidal she was. there's a person hob robby twobd it's

steve adelman as well as former atf special agent and hostage negotiator jim cavanaugh thank you forng us steve, concerts appear to be a theme here we have seen it in paris we have seen it in manchester, england. what makes concerts particularly vulnerable >> concerts are vulnerable because there are a lot of people we know there will be a lot of people in a confined space there are a lot of soft targets if somebody is intent on making a lot of casualties. concerts are pretty easy >> the symbolism associated with concerts, you hear about it. you have seen terrorists who want to inflict harm on western values this was seen as a symbol of western enjoyment. that's what makes it attractive. we don't know anything about the motive here. what's so strange is that this doesn't fit the profile of some of the other terrorists. >> no, it doesn't fit the profile of any other incident. in fact, we should be careful not to characterize this as a concert shooting every news account has been clear that the shooter was actually diagonally across the intersection at a hotel and shot out or punched o

joining us live from london, nbc news foreign correspondent lucie cavanaugh, good to have you with usings is it's been more than 40 days since pyongyang's last missile test. should we attribute that to diplomatic efforts that mattis continues to promote, making any strides in you know delaying these missile tests? >> well, that's the million dollar question. i think it's far to early to tell if the diplomats are working, especially when secretary of state rex tillerson seems to be at odds with the commander-in-chief on the issue. it doesn't help when the president tweets dip ploem seas a waste of time. mattis was in south korea ahead of trump's visit to asia next week. we do understand trump will most likely skip a visit to the dmz. a bypassing would be a symbolic up the for an american president to stare into the hermit kingdom. he threatened catastrophe and says the trump administration is forcing nuclear disarmament. we learned they will be releasing a south korean fishing boat seized for illegally sailing into its waters, does that mean things are deescalating, though,? i think no

nbc's lucy cavanaugh reports. >> reporter: this morning, new questions about that harrowing survival at sea. jennifer appel, tasha and their boys, valentine and zeus arriving in japan yesterday after drifting helplessly in the pacific for five months. >> had they not been able to locate us, we would have been dead within 24 hours. >> reporter: but now the u.s. coast guard says the women never activated their emergency beacon. in a statement to nbc news overnight, appel admits the pair did not activate the beacon, writing we were in distress but floating, had water and food and limited maneuverability and felt the beacon should only be activated if we were in imminent danger. heading for to heaty, but say a storm on may 30th swamped their engine and broke their mast. the ship picked up 900 miles southeast of japan. but the coast guard said it made contact with the nymph in june. appel responding to that report, telling nbc news, weener got near tahiti. our gps track proves that. as for those devastating storms at the start of their voyage, the national weather service in honolulu sayi

the constitution award, a of justice -- i might clothed -- ande addressed to the honorable brett cavanaugh from the heritage foundation. thank you very much congratulations. >> thank you very much. [applause] >> we would also like to present to you and i am sure you know these well, for your library and working out in the morning -- [laughter] >> two copies of the commentaries of just a story and a much shorter version, the familiar exposition of the constitution of the united states by joseph story and a forward by me. [laughter] >> thank you general meese. >> thank you. [applause] >> thank you. [laughter] >> thank you ladies and gentlemen for being with us. there will be a reception in the foyer out here. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] thiannouncer: this week on q &a. was charlesget murray. it looked like he was going to fall to the ground. he was a 70 for your own man. i did what any decent person would do, i grabbed him by th

we were were spies i'm jim cavanaugh was a communication technician aboard the u.s.s. liberty and i intercepted morse code were spies when we were intercepting messages from embassies military bases police anything and everything that we could get to ensure that the united states was comfortable what was going on in the world and known as conspiring against us and basically was to protect our interests. this was the cold war american president lyndon johnson knew that the russians already had substantial military influence in egypt he needed to find out what they were going to do next to make sure that a local conflict did not become a world war with the usa backing israel and russia siding with the arab cause. i was assigned as a russian linguist aboard the ship on bryce lockwood united states marine corps retired israelis our primary purpose was to intercept communications of the russian spy aircraft as it were at alexandria egypt and and it was our job was to find them and they were not targeted against israelis life was very relaxing and one of the nice things abou

i want to get over to lucy cavanaugh following all of this.er: this is a standup that's been escalating for a few weeks now. what we saw today was a major escalation, the cotillion parliament passed a resolution to basically create a cotillion republic to succeed from spain. the senate of the central government in madrid voted to take control over this rege. catalonia has its only parliament, police force, language. on october 1st the region voted to basically declare independence in a widely disputed referendum. the people split on the issue, a lot of folks stayed home, didn't vote, 43% turnout. spain declared this referendum illegal and sent police officers to pull ballots from voting centers, but then it escalated, heavy clashes in the streets, hundreds of people injured. this set off a game of cat and mouse between the central government and catalonia. the prime minister used what's known as something called a nuclear option, basically invoking article 155 of the local constitution there which basically let's spain remove catalonia's presi

i'm joined by jim cavanaugh and tim kelly, jim, i want to start with you, let's talk about the guns he may have been using. experts that have been listening to the videos that witnesses were taking from the scene talk about the bullets fired one after the other. automatic weapons are hard to come by in the united states, certainly since they were banned from purchase in 1986 or so. you can get them as long as they were registered before that, grandfathered in, but could he have used an automatic weapon there, or could it have been a semiautomatic weapon that was modify today behave more like an automatic weapon. >> it could have been a semiautomatic rifle, like an ar-15 or one of its variance that's been converted by parts and drop in automatic seres and different gun parts to fire it full automatic. it's clearly full automatic that you hear on the video. if you listen closely you can hear a complete empty of maybe a 30-round magazine and then a delay where he's probably reloading and then you hear another empty. it goes on about three or four times. on the video eyewitnesses said they

nbc news foreign colonel lucy cavanaugh has breaking details. what do we know about this, lucy? >> reporter: the united nations confirmed an incident to nbc news, ambassador nikki haley at a refugee camp meeting with civilians affected by the war in that country when a small protest broke out against the president's country. there were about 100 demonstrators, we understand. the spokesman for nbc news said the ambassador had to leave when this group approached the area where she was located. we're told she cut the event short by a few minutes, but maintained the rest of her schedule. she has since departed there and is in the drc, democratic republic of congo, the next intended stop. not taking around her schedule and we know ambassador haley met earlier and there has been growing frustration inside and outside that country over the conflict. it killed tens of thousands of people. the u.s. is south sudan's largest donor and instrumental in the creation of south sudan. ambassador haley questioned the president over rape, murder, kidnapping as washington seeks to ramp up pressure

joining me nbc's law enforcement analyst jim cavanaugh, i wonder if you could give us your thoughts about what we know at this hour. >> well, nicole, tom's reporting and what the authorities are saying looking at it as terrorism. is consistent with the overall picture we see, a long crime scene, seven to 14 city blocks, we see maybe a rental vehicle involved, again we have seen that in a lot of terrorist attacks. and the gunman who jumps out maybe with a paint ball gun, maybe with a beebee gun, which is not inconsistent with terror attacks as well. we have seen attacks in europe where the killers had hoax bombs strapped on them. other attacks where they used real firearms or beebee guns or paint guns. sometimes they just use what they have. and we know that groups like isis and al qaeda have encouraged vehicle attacks. while it's not absolute, the length of the crime scene, the actor getting out with weapons acting like he's going to shoot or harm others, midday, broad daylight, a rental vehicle. all these things also look toward it could be a terrorist attack. >> and you're describing th

jim cavanaugh, both msnbc analysts. clint, how do you begin to figure out what happened here and what motivated this man? >> motivation is one of the things. of course, all of the investigators we try to find out and realize the new fbi director recently said that the fbi has 1,000 domestic and 1,000 foreign terrorist investigations going at any one time and as far as w right. he's in there for three days. he's watching this three-day event. he has ten rifles. he's planning to do this. he's set his plan in motion and it looks like it's a suicide mission. it looks like he goes there and there's been some media reports not confirmed that he might have set up some cameras to let him know when the police came down the hall but he doesn't look like he was planning to leave there. so it may be -- of course it's a mass murder mission clearly, but it also is a suicide mission. so this guy is going out with his plans. >> i want to learn a bit more about this man. let's bring in nbc justice correspondent pete williams. he's findi

. >> something that sticks in my mind, jim cavanaugh said it earlier, this man came to vegas to go to war. among the many unanswered questions, did stephen paddock use a semiautomatic gun that had been converted into illegal fully automatic weaponry? tom costello is following the gun trail. tom, without knowing firsthand -- >> reporter: guys, good morning. two nevada gun shops and one in utah tell us they sold guns to the suspect legally. semiassault weapons and ammo are legal in nevada but converting a semiautomatic to a true fully automatic weapon is against the law. so did he use a cheap kit called a bump stock in this case to get around the law? the rapid bursts of gunfire provided a first clue. >> i've shot semiautomatic weapons before. and this, i could tell, was more highly sophisticated gunfire. >> reporter: what sounded like automatic gunfire. police say stephen paddock filled his room with ammo, tripods, scopes and 23 guns, some semiautomatic includi including .223 and .308 calibers, 19 more in his home. the question was, were the weapons already automatic when paddock purch

tanner: detective cavanaugh. thank you for coming. i was sent.

then at 5:30 appeals court judge brett cavanaugh will be speaking at the heritage foundation. that will also be live on c-span 3 starting at 5:30 eastern. >>> also house speaker paul ryan will be headlining the radio and tv correspondent's dinner tonight. coverage starts at 7:40 eastern. >>> tomorrow we're live in topeka, kansas, for the next stop on the c-span bus 50 capitols tour. starting at 8:45 a.m. eastern. >>> white house press secretary sarah sanders and members of the white house press corps discuss media access to the president. she talked about her job, including some of the frustrations with what she feels is unfair media coverage. >>

nbc's lucy cavanaugh has more. >> reporter: for caitlan coleman and her husband, it was a nightmare that lasted five years. raising three children in captivity, hostages for their entire lives until their release this week. >> obviously, it will be of incredible importance to my family that we are able to build a secure sanctuary for our three surviving children. >> reporter: but this morning, new revelations from husband joshua boyle about the couple's torment at the hands of their captors including the murder of what would have been their fourth child, a baby girl. >> the stupidity and evil of authorizing the murder of my infant daughter, martyr boyle and the stupidity and evil of the subsequent rape of my wife. >> reporter: caitlan was seven months pregnant when they were kidnapped while backpacking through afghanistan, taken by the haqqani network a faction of the taliban which also held bowe bergdahl. they were freed after they had been moved from afghanistan into pakistan. >> this operation was carried out on the basis of intelligence which was provided by the u.s. >> reporter: bac

lucy cavanaugh has more on this story. good morning. >> reporter: savannah, good morning.or five months. this morning there are safe and sound and found back on dry land. they spent the last few months on board the "uss ashland." fui their dogs. the pair seemed healthy and happy. the women bonding with the crew on the five-day voyage to japan. we saw footage of those emotional hugs as the ship pulled into port at the american military base in okinawa. they say they are ready and eager to get back out to sea next year, but for now we're expecting them to be in quarantine for the next 24 hours and so it's not quite clear when they will make it back home to hawaii. but savannah, believe it or not or it's easy to understand after eating nothing but pasta and oatmeal for the past several months, they say that the first thing they want to do when they get back home is dinner at the cheesecake factortry. guys? >> we can relate to that for sure. thank you so much. >>> and now to frightening moments for passengers on a flight trying to land in salzburg, austria on sunday. the jet h

. >>> dc circuit court of appeals judge bret cavanaugh will be speaking at the heritage foundation today about the role the judiciary branch plays in maintaining the separation of power between the government's three branches at 5:30 p.m. eastern. house speaker paul ryan headlines the radio and tv correspondents dinner tonight. on c-span2. both items available on line at c-span.org or listen with the free c-span radio app. this week on q and a. >> they were shoving and jostling. their target was charles murray. and i was a little bit behind him. and it kind of intensified. it looked like he was going to fall to the ground. at the at the time was a 74-year-old man. i did what any decent being would do when you see a 74-year-old man on the verge of falling to the ground, i grabbed him by the arm. to make sure he didn't fall. but i was -- it was a large -- i don't know how many but i was fearful of being separated

we will go back to jim cavanaugh who is an msnbc analyst and speciaagent. you have seen these scenes before and you are the s.w.a. teams move in and clear the area. this large, large area in the mandal bay area. acres of property. this i just a large area where they have to clear off. how are they distinguishing where they can look for the shoote versus where the popula is? >> you know, when you saw the images of metro s.w.a.t. moving in in front of the mandalay bay casino what the tactical operat are doing is keeping office on thely ward side of mapped lay bay and trying to stay off and use the vehicle as protec from the casino. they believe shooters are locate one or more in the casino and exposed on the other side. can see what they know. they know that the threat to them is on the left side of the vehicl and moving on the right side to take a different positi to coordinate with theirther tactical te operat in there. early reports we saw witnesses here that you had on who talked about hearing the gunshots and the small explosions that was likely a little

wednesday, judge fred cavanaugh of the d.c. circuit court of appeals talks about the role of the judiciary in maintaining the separation of powers between the three government branches. we'll have live coverage of his speech at the heritage noundation at 5:30 p.m. eastern on c-span3 or watch it online at c-span.org and on the free c-span radio app. this week on "q&a" -- >> they were shoving and jostle, their target was charl murray. and i was behind him. and it kind of intensified, he looked like he was going to fall to the ground. he was at the time a 75-year-old man. i did what any decent human being would do when you see a 74-year-old man on the verge of falling to the ground, grabbed him by the arm. both to make sure he didn't fall but i was also afraid of being -- it was a large, i don't know how many but i was fearful of being separated from them and being left behind so i took his arm and when i did that, that's when it all tourned me. somebody pulled my hair. somebody body slammed me from the other direction. professor

joining us for that is karen cavanaugh, senior market strategist at voya, and jeff cores of fifth thirdrivate bank i try to bond with you when you're here, on the fifth third thing. aren't you based in chicago? >> i'm based in chicago. >> fifth third is a cincinnati based lender >> cincinnati based but we have senior people in charlotte, office in new york >> why chicago when based in cincinnati not big enough not monster enough you have good chili in chicago >> not as good as cincinnati >> what about the ribs this is old territory for us >> not for all the millennials that have recently joined up okay at this point, just in terms of what we have seen, i saw something today, did you see 250 days since a -- this market has been -- you know, in the past we talked about beach balls, you try to take them down, water, they come back up. not only has it been trending higher consistently, but there's been very little volatility. looks like something weird >> this is the market, the bull market everyone has loved to hate so when i am out speaking to high net worth individuals they tell mir they