i would like to try to figure out a way for you to start. >> ccg. community challenge grant. [inaudible]. >> her question, she's really overwhelmed how big it is the question is one of tyiming and phasing. how do you look at the scope of the project and the timing and apply for one or 2 grants and how do you break it up for your community to chew. >> there are 3 things our project had fit. it was limited in scale. as far as need to meet neighbor a -- create and meet with a core group of neighbors. the other was autoaccuratically initiated. we have the idead and the talent an art tech and developer in this building that could whip something up on paper and make it nice. also with the resources of asking the contractor what would the material cost so we could fill out the application with a fair amount -- the things with a large grant is past experience. we didn't have past experience. we couple the credibility and knowledge and filled it in with confidence. au autocatically started is take ideas and not a big deal to sit down at lunch or after work and meet with neighbors much