i would like to try to figure out a way for you to start. >> ccg. community challenge grant. [inaudible]. >> her question, she's really overwhelmed how big it is the question is one of tyiming and phasing. how do you look at the scope of the project and the timing and apply for one or 2 grants and how do you break it up for your community to chew. >> there are 3 things our project had fit. it was limited in scale. as far as need to meet neighbor a -- create and meet with a core group of neighbors. the other was autoaccuratically initiated. we have the idead and the talent an art tech and developer in this building that could whip something up on paper and make it nice. also with the resources of asking the contractor what would the material cost so we could fill out the application with a fair amount -- the things with a large grant is past experience. we didn't have past experience. we couple the credibility and knowledge and filled it in with confidence. au autocatically started is take ideas and not a big deal to sit down at lunch or after work and meet with neighbors much

i would like to try to figure out a way for you to start. >> ccg. community challenge grant. [inaudible].

so, in my neighborhood -- we have not been ccg funded in my neighborhood the big issue was traffic. gererroro street takes up a lot of cars on the freeway and there were many intersections that didn't have traffic controls. any time you wanted to cross it was 6 lanes doing 70 a lot like 19th avenue. we downloaded dpt has a traffic calming request form. and we went door to door and asked people to sign it and in a month we got 300 signatures. it was hard to get out of people's houses in less than an hour because they hold me hear stores. i got to know the neighbors and they got to know me. in the process we learned who got which skills. peep will say i don't have money but i can do this and i have a truck. that's how you answer that question. you could work hard to figure out on how to raise the money to get it professionally done that will not build your neighborhood. you have to start small and figure out who are the few care takers and you become the planet as you get bigger you attract for matter around you. >> what's the -- >> did everybody hear that question? >> the question is

to do it and you know from there enabled the partnership of the city to give us a grant through the ccg and really help that whole process along. it's like starting a snow ball rolling getting a grant from the city and validating the idea and we are on your way. what we did in terms of aplying for the grant we came up with one of the sketches that's floating around the curvy area in the middle of the street n. real world of design there is the transportation authority and parking and traffic. accessibility issues that make it normative. the idea was to take a portion of the alley about 90 feet west of goth street and raise the entire road bed to the level of the sidewalk and with the uniformed paving material. a ceiling of continuity but not a dedicated for pedestrians or automobiles. seating blocks and benches and planters and trees in that and creating a space that's intimate and usable by the community of coffee drinkers but the residents and the business owners and anybody else who happens to wander through hayes valley and feels there and discovers this special space that's accessi