. > > ccl. look at that stock. look at ccl. carnival cruise lines has been distressed, that is another value. > > another stock with bad earnings. > bonus round time: the best story of the week, oracle's larry ellison, now he has an island and an airline from hawaii. so this question has to do with hawaii: was there ever a stock exchange in hawaii? yes or no? > > alan is a lot older than me so i am just going to say whatever he says. > > maybe the fish exchange, possibly for tuna to be shipped into tokyo, but i don't think there were stocks traded. > > i would say no, but i am just going to agree with alan because he has been around a little longer. > there actually was a stock exchange in hawaii. > > what year? do you know? > i do know actually. there actually was a stock exchange in hawaii to 1976. there is the bell. > > '76, you were probably 20. > > yeah, there you go. > thanks for being on the show. first business continues right after this. tim biggam of moneyblock joins us for chart talk with his ways of making money on

the fact that carnival ccl make it is comeback and boeing, those are positive signs. >> but it's sort of what zimmerman said, walter zimmerman sitting here before us the other day talking about a new financial crisis. if not a crash. right? i'm glad you mentioned sentiment. he points to things like sentiment being too high. momentum, too much. technicals being too damaged. >> but you'd expect people then to be looking for the cheap stock and for them to buy that cheap stock in the sector. boeing clearly not that. neither is carnival in my mind. you look at how they're performing. they're willing to dismiss some of that even things like mtg with jim cramer last night. mtg on the mortgage side and basically have an issuance of 67% more stock and the stock trade up on that, come on. >> worthless indicator of anything. consumer sentiment, investor sentiment. it's that moment of time. >> the next guest says he's not this bull niche a decade and putting the $11.5 million behind that call. ron sloan for invesco. welcome back. >> thank you, scott. >> a lot of people here, hey, i haven't been

>> carnival is a $28 billion stock, but ccl's management just can't catch a break at the moment. week, a failed generator on the carnival "dream" left it stuck in the port of st. martin, forcing management to hire planes to fly passengers home. now "legend" has failing engines. on board the "legend," the brother of this network's you a owe correspondent. >> it's very frustrating. you plan for weeks and weeks and months and months in some cases, and you plan on going to belize and that was canceled out on us and we planned on going to grand cayman and that was canceled out, also. >> investors are more focused on the fact that last month's tv pictures of the crippled carnival "triumph" drifting for days, complete, of course, with the failing bathrooms forced management to cut prices on carnival branded cruises to keep sale s buoyant. as a result, coo howard frank is cutting four-year guidance, promising analysts on today's conference call that the carnival division will generate better p.r. >> they are making some modifications to their messaging and communications right now. i thi