a disturbing change in intent and the experts that you have the ccp trying to buy land near militarye had a surveillance balloon traveled across the country and hover above military installations. this is not the first time we've seen the ccp tried to get military information but these individuals apparently were given specific information about u.s. plans in the indo pacific. does that suggest the ccp is gearing up for conflict with the united states. >> are seriously tearing up for the u.s. military capabilities and how to counter that. whether the going to a specific in-state or not it's clear all the other things he mentioned, this is a real war a cold war we should call it what it is. we were a major reported heritage and said it's a cold war and outlined a hundred things that we needed to do this is our enemy and i'll tell you where this auto strike a nerve with people look at biden's policy is today. it's all reaching out to china and talking to the chinese, much of it flat but biden strategy literally to park the whole china situation until after the election. he wants things

would put restaurant out of business if they have been served something unaware of so in other words, ccp knew that there were mushrooms haded hallucinogenics in them. >> a crack up -- hallucinogenic delicious. >> we look 10 steps behind another example of that man we need somebody can take initiative leadership here we don't get it from president we don't get it from treasury don't get it anywhere right now. >> we know who person is has initiative -- >> yes. >> that is true, look i think this story is outrageous janet yellen went to china then served hallucinogenic mushrooms i don't think funny she is treasury secretary. you said earlier she should have a taster, you know, anyway that actually happened. >> it could have gone sideways could have had reaction in front of cameras talking jibberish, i can't understand what she is saying? what is going on stacey great to have you this morning thank you so much thanks for your input on retail, of course, is your specialty we were grateful to have you this morning target tjx is outwall is tomorrow brian joe stay right there, next hour of "morni

in the way what i think is common sense, legislation, what happens to your investment in china when ccpre are systemic, risks having assets seized in inventory of taiwan scenario, risks like variable interest intent no protections we are over lou for action my hope this will be issue in primary key issue, every single republican presidential candidate should be forced to take an issue on this, for me absolutely essentially issue. maria: i totally agree with you congressman, i want to ask you, i mean, what is the incentive for blackrock not to steer investors flows into companies? let's face it. i mean they want that relationship with beijing are you going to ask larry fink how much money he managers for chinese communist party? is managing money for xi jinping? >> this is just start of our efforts, my hope is blackrock will cooperate, i think that it is in their own interests, to get rid of a lot of companies, that are in etfs track msci, risks too great we talked about before particularly when you consider what else blackrock has been luckering us about so-called esg investing obviousl

we are not going to talk about tiktok ban at all despite the fact that's a propaganda tool of the ccpt is really trouble something that raimondo blinken and john kerry can sit down with the ccp and get a photo op., we delay key defensive action. we make preemptive concessions just to get to the negotiating table. >> laura: it's such joke. china doesn't make any concessions they don't do anything continue their cyber warfare against us. it sends a signal of weakness around the world. >> congressman, look, don't you agree that the democrats are far more comfortable and willing to sit across the table with the ccp than they are in sitting across the table from the g.o.p. much rather spend time with the rcp, correct? >> well, i think there is a concern -- well, there is two things going on in the biden administration. one, they believe that the preempt meant national security threat is not china, it's climate change. if you read the national security strategy. >> laura: or white supremacy. >> exactly. therefore it leads them to a more cooperative approach to the chinese communist party. a

is gonna how the ccp leadership is going to respond.first, the question of, has china peaked is that is there a different uh trajectory they're on? and we don't appreciate it. and is, is the current reset in us policy with a limited outbound exec investment executive order, slowdown of congressional action on china. a sign that you know, potentially were in reaching the new stasis . mr bush you want to start. >> sure. yeah, it's a great question. you know, it, it's, it i saw the economist cover too. it was very provocative, i guess. i don't quite know what they mean by peak. you know, i and others have argued that the the growth miracle in china is over, we're not going back to eight or nine or 10% growth. and so from that perspective, we have entered a new era but china is still going to be around. i don't think the chinese economy is collapsing. i think there's many scenarios where the chinese economy could grow slower but still healthily at a 3, 4, 5% level for the next decade or more. so china will continue to be an important global

you know, the ccp is smart. into unnatural amount of subsidiaries never see in natural world seduce with money, these mfci, networks funds those go into blackrock's 431 emerging market funds buried in 11.7 trillion-dollar funds, so average citizen has no idea about this. you know it is tough to find -- we accomplish a fact sheet at state department, tracked indices. maria: are a you had stated the recent case study you highlighted blackrock ceo larry fink funningels more investment capital into china than any other individual worldwide, wow. . how is that? >>, by the way, that is correct, that, you know, wharton business school did a case study on this capital market campaign, and larry fink, doing this a number of years, you know what this was about was larry fink has been a big proponent of esg, if you look at esg. the environment. social means human rights, xi governance means how do you run your books can you be audited, leaves stun questioning maybe three reasons why there should be no chinese companies, in

more evidence the biden white house would rather cut deals with the ccp the work with the gop. my angle on that a little later and show. plus my effusive interview with trump advisor easement. today at kentucky chamber of commerce meeting mcconnell was set to speak at a small press conference and happen again. >> what your thoughts are running for reelection? >> did you hear the question, senator? running for reelection in 2026? >> i'm sorry. we are going to need a minute. >> . >> if somebody else has a question please speak up. >> after that episode neither of the 2 questions that followed reference what just happened. but this was a final push. >> and for trump's latest indictment. >> it is a question about trump. >> i will not comment about the president. >> the mcconnell spokesperson tried to explain this away that momentarily he felt lightheaded and paused during the press conference. that is not what we saw. this is a pause. we have real problems here in both parties the government is about to begin what are monumentally decisions and 5 men that are supposed to play a dom

america it is because the marxist threat coming from the ccp if you believe what meta just told us.ssia will use every platform available to us in the user access to their own society to advance her interest and there are narratives in both of the country see the information domain is what are the critical domains for broader conflict with the west. it's not surprising to see this and i think it's absolutely commendable to see what it's done take it down and telling the world that they've done that and it's a whole lot of other platforms to, tiktok obviously and also twitter, acts an instagram and a bunch of other platforms. this operation is something that reminds us china is looking to advance a narrative and what they were doing was in multiple languages other targeting other countries as well and they're trying to change the narrative among those that speak chinese and certainly using the platforms himself. it's a reminder that this conference will be fought also buyer countries and it will touch him in many, many ways it is the second world war in cold war our companies will be

the chinese-linked companies, because they're tied to the ccp, just don't play by the rules to get any can get they'll try to get. and and that's why, you know, that's one of the things that we're investigating in our committee, how they do business here and around the world. and what we're finding is we don't like what we see. will: no doubt. and i know you said you're still in the investigation phase of this, but, you know, after what we now think is a probability that covid came from a lab leak in china, i'm not sure the answer to this question is operatively different, but i think we still want to know. you know, is this, as you said, a company linked to ccp looking to just cut corners and is sloppy if haphazard in which case we could have a big disaster, or is it more nefarious where there's a reason they're trying to avoid government oversight in which case it's more intentional? >> that's a great question, and that's something that needs to be found out. what is it that they were doing, and why were they doing it there. and what kind of a threat it poses to, again, like i said,

maria: hold that thought, mike pompeo says the ccp is inside of the gates of america., i want toho gett when we come right back. i'm talking with marsha blackburn, stay with us. oh!! searchable, verified reviews. that's better than the ham, and i've never said that. booking.com booking.yeah it's true, though - you won't overpay for glasses if you shop at america's best. they offer two pairs and a free, quality eye exam starting at just $79.95. the exam alone is worth at least 59 bucks. i can see from your expression that you find that shocking. and you're actually speechless. ...aaaaaaaaand, you don't have ears. two pairs and a free exam for just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. it's true, though - you won't overpay for glasses if you shop at america's best. maria: welcome back on backward tennessee senator marsha blackburn. i want to ask about these letters that your colleague sent to janet yellen marco rubio and tom collins sent to forbes by groups that are allegedly tied to the ccp. your thoughts? >> we have to make certain that ccp connected companies are not going t

they talk about win-win but really in the ccp's world it's win lose. china wins and everyone else loses. the only way china can win is if everyone else loses. china's position has become clear. and addressing those ambitions head on. military exercises, propaganda. the stability of our partners in china and taiwan, japan and korea. we saw this with the cutoff of minerals a few years ago when china was not happy with japanese policymakers and did for a time cut off to japan. it standard practice. with a sense of american intellectual property, china and chinese firms legally disregard a national law and international law. fortunately this is begun to wake up to the threat and the reality of the risk china poses not just to our country and national security but to our business in the individual economy for businesses that rely on china. we need to figure out what our supply chains, onshore, re-sure and trust partners. we cannot do this alone. it has to be a group effort in the west and i might as well call the free world. to make sure supply chains for e

biden rather cut deals with the ccp than work with the g.o.p. my angle on that a little later on in the show. plus part 2 of my exclusive interview with former trump legal adviser and co-defendant john eastman. but, first, today after a kentucky chamber of commerce meeting, mitch mcconnell was set to speak at a small press conference. and it happened again. >> what are your thoughts on running for re-election in 2026 whampleght are my thoughts about what? >> running for re-election in 2026. >> oh, ha ha -- >> did you hear the question, senator, running for re-election in 2026? >> yes. >> i'm sorry, y'all, we are going to need a minute. senator. somebody else have a question, please speak up? >> laura: no, is he not okay. now, bizarrely, after that disturbing episode, neither of the two questions that followed referenced what just happened. but this was the final question. >> what is your reaction on trump's latest indictment? would you support him as a nominee? >> it's a question about trump. yeah, i'm not going to comment about the presidential

it's titled americans are unwittingly financing the ccp. it has to stop.illions of americans have become financial backers of the ccp without knowing it, their savings are funding companies that build weapons for china's peoples liberation army as well as companies involved in theon gone genocide in xinjiang. this is the issue i'm talking about when i say this president is so soft on china, he comes out with an executive order that is supposed to limit investment in technology and yet it doesn't begin for a year. it's incredibly narrow and the capital markets are completely left out and left open. why did joe biden send a memorandum of understanding, he signed this mou back in 2014 which allowed thousands of chinese companies to trade on our u.s. exchanges and not follow s.e.c. accounting rules. so what is your reaction to all of these funds that have opportunities for investors to buy into chinese stocks which are actually companies tied to the chinese military? >> so there's kind of two issues. one, there is an issue as to whether or whether or not the i

acquisition of forbes by groups that are allegedly tied to thet ccp, your thoughts?re not going to be buying our media outlets. you can look at the path they are traveling. they arear building out their technology. they areg ou trying to pull in . investors. tobecause they have cornered thn market on lithium and rare earth metals. look with the bill was social s ocmedia, tiktok and other applications. now you look at how they areey'r trying to get into the u.s. and purchase our media outlets. this one is russia and china, two of the axis of evil working together trying to get a respected media outlet to target younger individuals. >> we are going to cover this, it's another weak response fromt the administration for its hundreds were to have you,is, thanks very much. i will see you. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed without fingersticks. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your a1c. it's covered by medicare for tho

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it is something called united front or expert ccp united front works. xi jinping himself is called his magic weapon combines traditional espionage activity with economic coercion. that is really what we are seeing across the board. we see illegal police session pop up in the middle of manhattan is registered to an innocuous sounding nonprofit which ultimately reports back to the united front work department. that is a poorly understood phenomenon. we are all the things pop up. you know because you were with us in iowa, we are seeing ccp operative steal our sensitive agricultural, intellectual property. relate since the 2015 hack the office of personnel management in which 20 million federal government and military records were compromised and president obama signed an agreement was xi jinping designed to stop disparate they have not stopped at all but the ccp has continued its relentless espionage campaign against america we are slowly waking up to it. we are just beginning to scratch the surface in terms of this activity on american soil. >> congressma

the ccp owns farmland across the united states estimated to be worth $2 billion.e, former michigan state university began gop candidate and john boyd jr., president of the national black farmers and resident of green charter township who is leading local opposition to this deal. thank you for getting up with us to talk about this. jeff, how did you manage to pull this off and you were not bullied by this situation? >> well, we pulled it off by the american way, the american people coming together, bonding together in agreement with one another and taking our constitutional rights and stand up for what we believe is our community and we have a say in how we live and what goes on and what doesn't go on here. we bound together and started taking steps six months ago in various ways to stand up against us. >> ashley: we've shown outrage from locals about how this would happen. you guys pulled it off, hats off to you. laurie, you said this is far from over, what did you mean by that? >> we've got a small win here. it was because we didn't get help from michigan issue b

intelligence rates the chinese communist party, or ccp, as a top security threat. >> the ccp represents the most consequential threat to u.s. national security and leadership globally. >> reporter: though an nbc news review tonight finding nationwide the amount of american land being purchased by chinese entities appears to be small. since early 2022, less than 1,400 acres sold to businesses tied to china have been reported to the usda so far in total, it appears china controls less than 400,000 acres of american land, which is less than 1% of all the land owned by foreign entities here in montana, a state law banning chinese citizens from buying land passed with bipartisan support. brad molnar was the only republican to vote no. >> you create the dragon, there never was a dragon. >> reporter: he said the law is an overreach and would prevent his wife, a chinese national, from being able to inherit his land after he dies. >> there is no evidence that i'm aware of that the people that own the land are in any way a threat to american security if they are, arrest them, and remove them. >>

look, in china they have a law every chinese company has to work with the pla and the ccp.o way around it. so there's a technology that the pla would like to use and you're a chinese company you have to give it to them. for us to continue to invest in china is suicidal. it's going to bite us. it's already biting us and we need to decouple ourselves from china as quick as we can. i'm a bit of a hawk on that, some people in the committee don't agree with it but i see the writing on the wall, what the chinese communist party wants to do, global domination and we are helping fund it. we have immediate to stop it right now. >> rich: the decoupling debate, do you feel you have some bipartisan support, and secondly, who else is the committee looking into? other target for the investigation? >> look, msci is on this, but we need to look at the entire, you know, all of wall street and see how much of wall street and how much of our money, you know, i'm a retiree, so how much of our money is going to help china, going to help enslave the people of china and eventually, you know, put

gotten rid of -- they can't afford phone bills -- >> "bidenomics" that is it. >> glad you mentioned ccpthe time criticism focus on china not about chinese people this is about the communist party of china, the chinese people are actually also victims here, because of this -- this totalitarian government we teen focus on it for sure right back big buzz of the morning on the other side of this break stay with us. . . .. there are some things that go better... together. burger and fries... soup and salad. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together can help you make smarter decisions. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. - this is jabra enhance select. it's more than just a hearing aid. it's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive. with jabra enhance select's premium package, better hearing doesn't have to start in a doctor's office. it starts with our free online hearing test. you can fine tune your settings with your remote audiology team. with jabra enhance selec

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two navy sailors just arrested for selling military information to the ccp.d i'll tell you, this is so serious, increasingly american voters and people understand what's going on here. even though the mainstream media is not reporting this. >> maria, that's part of the problem. i think america needs to wake up. there's only a certain percentage that watches fox and fox business news and other media i think that really tells the truth. and we've got to wake america up to the serious threat that communist chinese party is to america. and our survival as a nation. they have their t tent acles in everything we do. theythey've encrypted mal watero our bases that could shut down our power, our grid, our water supply, that could shut down response plans we have should they take over taiwan. we have to make sure we get answers from the secretary of defense and national security administration. we have told them we need answers by august 14th, a week from this monday. we'll see if that happens. when we get back to washington from our august in-work district month, we

the ccp said that it reserves the right to respond to joe biden's executive order.after our companies in their market. that's the card they're always going to play. and our business executives need to realize like that was always coming. it's time to change course. maria: jonathan, good to see you. thanks so much. quick break and then ready for takeoff again, fox business' kelly o'grady is live from space port america in new mexico this morning, with a preview of virgin galactic's special commercial space flight. kelly. >> reporter: we're looking to make history today with the first space tourism flight from virgin galactic. the space ship that you see behind me will go up into space in a few hours hopefully. coming up after the break i'll tell you who is flying, how much they paid and what they're going to experience. don't go away. ♪ let innovation refunds help with your erc tax refund so you can improve your business however you see fit. rosie used part of her refund to build an outdoor patio. clink! dr. marshall used part of his refund to give his practice a fac

what we know about the ccp is that roughly two thirds of the cyber attacks in the u.s.ming from the prc. and on top of that, they have recently been found to be planting malware in critical infrastructure related to military bases. and talking about power and water and communication lines. they are trying to go after secrets within the pentagon, obviously, and our federal contractors. to that extent, we have to do a better job of promoting cybersecurity, not only at the pentagon, but also in the private sector and making sure that those who are subject to attacks or victims of tas are willing to share the information about it so we can all be protected. >> congrsm, i want to talk about another international adversary and that is russia. there is a new poll showing that for the first time, a majority of americans oppose congress providing additional funding to ukraine. 55% in this poll said no. what is your reaction? >> well, i think, at this point, what i sense among most democrats and republicans in congress is strong support for the ukrainians, perhaps putting more pr

i think what the ccp fears the most is bipartisan support in the congress against them, but also working with the uk. we don't have a stronger ally than the uk. and so again, we were reaffirming that, what our select committee is doing in washington dc with our uk counterparts this week. have you found that as well in your conversations? i have. i think that the uk is forward—leaning with regard to as posture relative to the chinese communist party. that being said, i think that we can continue to strengthen our multilateral pressure. now, what do i mean by that? we are adopting outbound restrictions right now with regard to investments from the united states into the people's republic of china. we'd like to see the same in the uk also with regard to the uygur forced labor prevention act, which has been adopted by the us congress on a bipartisan basis to prevent slave labour and forced labour by the uygurs from tainting our supply chains. we'd like to see the uk adopt a similar measure prohibiting the import of those types of products. the more that we act multilaterally, the less that x

it does not need the ccp to collapse. that is a competition we can pursue. certainly the military, but beyond that, many instruments of the u.s. power. >> just one last thing, and i will say there is a lot of good talk about this now. what we are talking about, there is talk from the pentagon and they will go to a conference or something and say all these things we are saying. then they go back to their office in sign another $100 million contract to support the denial strategy. i just think we really need to move off of this now, this idea that it is just going to be denial. that it is just going to be this hard power deterrence you are talking about. but we need to see more than just words. there are a lot of words now. there needs to be money decisions mr. clark: mr. clark: that are made. we have time for one more question. in the back, sir. >> in times of the safety net or hardline with china, do you think it would be ok to give them -- >> absolutely. i think all countries, particularly ones that may have some contention related to disputes, whether it i

came home with any tangible concessions from the ccp.as refused to take serious action on fentanyl. won't establish a military-to-military dialogue with us to avoid war and the ccp is still openly supplying moscow with war materials. and it also appears on this trip we made concessions as raimondo agreed to enter into negotiations over our export controls, which will make it much more difficult to get other countries to match our export controls. and strengthen the arguments made by u.s. companies to lift our export control restrictions. we need to be strengthening our export controls, closing the loopholes and right now i fear that we're going soft on them. >> brian: we are doing some other things like trying to bring chip manufacturing home. not -- selling certain elements they need to make their own chips. and then we are consolidating with our neighbors who see a common enemy and challenge in china like japan and australia. are we working from two sides of the fence in giving off mixed signals? are we going to look at them as a chall

maria: ccp wand china initiative canceled he canceled it, ccp wanted sanctions removed he is considering he allowed it so it was hovering over our country for half -- the country for a week. >> isn't it fascinating our treasury secretary our secretary of state, they've gone there, why haven't chinese officials come here? >> why are we going there to kiss the ring. maria: exactly right. >> we are united states don't kiss anybody's ring. maria: we understood gina raimondo red to go to beijing janet yellen over there bowing to counterpart you had antony blinken as packing his bags to go to beige hacking into the state department -- and getting all the info they need in terms of where his head is john kerry while still on the ground in beijing, xi jinping comes o out with a comment says nothing is going to twlauz to do about climate. >> we kind of take it. i don't you know, i don't understand except i already said i do understand, so take 20 million dollars from the he foreign government, clearly, you owe them something, and even though that is sort of thing you can he never approve starts t

. >> the ccp continued espionage campaign against america. we're waking up to it, just beginning to scratch the surface in terms of activity on american soil. >> carley: can we see elon musk and zuckerberg square off in a cage fight? what the billionaires are saying about the potential face-off? you're watching "fox and friends first" on monday morning, i'm carley shimkus. >> ashley: i'm ashley strohmier in for todd piro. more on that later in the show. former president trump's legal team facing 5 p.m. deadline to respond to the push to limit what the defense can share about trump's election interference case. >> we will not agree to keeping information not sensitive from the press. they have a right to know what the evidence is in this case, provided this evidence is not protected otherwise. we will oppose it, as we have. >> carley: alexandria hoff joins us with more. >> alexandria: trump attorneys filed motion to respond to this. judge denied the request this weekend. protective order is granted, president trump and his team will be limited

you know, survivor is depending on chinese survival like ccp. survivor so really quite going to die. and if china's miraculously changes direction and becoming more democratic and becoming more humane or they collapse themselves, become more democratic system in then north korea, follow exact same path. and i think that would be the best scenario. you know that like 1.4 billion people in china final are free and so many people will gain freedom because of collapse of ccp. thank you. thank you so much, everyone that every.

this was all self-inflicted damage china and ccp did for itself.a time when americans are living paycheck to paycheck. we at the angle sense a building momentum for the support of some kind of taxpayer bailout or some assistance or some softening toward china, maybe removing tarves gradually in order to help them through this period as american seeing opportunity for u.s. growth? be careful what you wish for warned obama secretary hank powellson. the effect would ripple around the world economically and geopolitically. instantaneous repercussions could be felt in worldwide capital markets. well, just fast forward a little bit. any type of handout any bailout a few things, gift to the ccp for all their bad behavior and gift to pollute democrats worldwide. three, a slap in the face of the american middle class as well it. would also be a complete act of self-sabotage for the united states. did would kind of be like giving a loaded gun to a man threatening to kill you when his own gun jams. we never helped the former soviet union when it began to falt

we are at odds with the ccp that have aggressive designs that are hostile towards the u.s..ation that the last 20 years of warfare were guerrilla warfare in the middle east, going to have to town and house to house. now we are facing an sophisticated enemy with ai-based solutions that are pervasive in our lives and offensive from the ccp. we have to prepare for that, we have to work for that. the change that has happened as a realization that the old school way of working through five or six primes and developing technology doesn't work. you have to bring in new sectors whether it is drone technology for -- this is what is needed for where the war is going and hopefully we can reduce human suffering and reduce casualties in doing that, not putting humans in harm's way. ed: great to have you on set in san francisco. coming up, okta jumping on strong results in an upgraded forecast. bc ceo todd mckinnon joins us next. we are looking at a live shot of a pickle ball court which highlights a major story from the san francisco chronicle. it details how a wealthy resident in presid

one, is there reason to believe that the ccp is ok with this?y seem to be talking about making the point is not the only objective and that control and security are critical. first, is there reason to think that they are ok with that? second, if not, what exactly could they do about it? there is one answer to that in some of this testimony, and it is that they could go back to the direction at which people thought they were moving 10 or 15 years ago to ccp control. if that is not likely in the short-term, what are the alternatives for that? they push exports, they rely more on foreign --? >> i want to leave time for the other panelist to chime in. i think we are seeing a real struggle. we've seen over the past month or so a suite of new private sector reforms coming out really aimed at improving the operating environment for the private sector. they know they can grow entirely through soes. they need the private sector for revenue and innovation. but i would note that even these private sector new reform initiatives still talk about increasing t

because ccp is helping him?estion at all that china is interfering as is russia with our elections, but they are interfering in two ways, one as i say seem picking, one candidate over another in this case biden but trying to make us not believe in our system, as you know,, many, many voters say it doesn't make any difference it is rigged, as long as voters believe that that our enemies are succeeding because they want us to not believe in our republic ability to have honorest election we have to do both we have to push back on bias coming out of foreign airs, regardless of which side it is on we also have to bolster peel's belief that our system although not perfect, is fairer and more legitimate than any other place in the world, and we are in congress have a responsibility if we find errors, or wrongdoing by the state to push back to make our system more reliable. but we will have to tell voters, get out and vote, believe in the system, don't let the chinese and russians the others trick you into not voting. >