so the first step in the process, that's when we will begin to ship pending the cdcs -- cdc's decisionwe'll ship about 15 million doses out nationwide in those next few days with millions more going out each and every week to make sure that we're matching the doses with where they're most needed, where there's the greatest demand. so to put the first week's allocation in perspective, the 15 million going out all in that first week, it took 12 weeks back at the end of 2020 and into 2021, it took 12 weeks to get enough supply out into the field to vaccinate half of the eligible adult population. so we will be doing all of that upfront with millions of more doses each week. so we're in very, very good shape here. so the bottom line is there will be plenty of supply and we look forward to parents having the opportunity to vaccinate their kids pending the fda and cdc decision-making. dr. fauci on jeremy's second question. dr. fauci: yeah, jeremy, you bring up a good point. you know, months ago it was felt based on the data with alpha predominantly that children do not get infected as much.

the fda and the cdc.he first committee to meet is the fda's vaccine and related biological products advisory committee. it holds a public meeting were scientific experts weigh in on the data and discuss key scientific questions. the fda synthesizes the committee's proceedings and then makes an official decision that can be implemented by our health care system. a similar process has been conducted by the cdc. the cdc advisory committee on immunization practices holds a public meeting were scientific experts weigh in on the data and answer key questions. and following that meeting, the cdc takes their input into account and makes a clinical recommendation for health care providers. to summarize, advice is offered and then the fda makes a decision. and this cdc makes a decision off of the other meeting's advice. helpful guidance is provided to the fda and cdc as the agencies themselves make their ultimate decision. this process is not new. it has been around long before covid-19. during the pandemic, this s

gain the cdc. as always we will update everyone about the final recommendations of bacon i'll make informed decisions about our health and the health of our loved ones and i will turn it back to jeff for questions. >> thank you doctor. we'll open it up for questions. >> a reminder to keep your questions to one question and will engage in pr. >> thank you for taking my question but have a question about airline pilots pre- commercial airline pilots are held to high fitness standards and they undergo medical dilutions to obtain their medical certificate to fly a in pilots at american and southwest airlines a particular are arguing pilots may be reluctant to get back to because of potential for granting side effects. they know that the -- has awarded pilots 48 hours after a shot because of the immediate side effects and they are concerned there could be long-term side effects that could cause them to lose their medical certification and their livelihood. is that a concern whether the potentials if the

but a different reconstituted cdc. we have to have a more fundamental question about what the role of public health officials in the setting of the crisis is . i think international crisis of this magnitude, a public health crisis you need public health officials who are properly resourced and empowered that notion i think has come under assault and it's not just a right left debate. it's not just conservative liberal. there's a broader swap for americans who are skeptical of public health officials and feel the guidance was ill-informed and shifting, unreliable. and are skeptical of empowering public health officials to put out dictates that are going to impede their decision-making and their ability to sort of take matters into their own hands in terms of how they reduce individual risk and are going to have to have a fundamental debate about what the role is of public health and international crisis because if we don't not going to get anywhere. we won't get a consensus about how toreform the cdc and how to empower

on data from the cdc. i know particularly when it comes -- a lot of parents would like to know what is the benefit of giving a second dose of the vaccine, especially in kids who have been infected. these are basic question that a lot of people in the united states would like to know, and we haven't really had messaging from the cdc. >> i think that is low hanging fruit. it's a simple test that is available, we all know how to interpret it. you published an op-ed in which you set the record straight on your research findings about school policies as opposed to the cdc's policies which frankly misrepresented your findings. i commend your research and commend you for setting the record straight. is there a way we can measure the harm done to our kids when federal agencies use the scientific community to question agenda regardless of the facts on the ground? dr. hoeg: we would have to know how to quantify harms that were accrued from school closures on children, because of unwillingness to reopen schools in a

the cdc would work with the clinic labs to get them stood up. if that still wasn't enough, you turn to the commercial manufacturers in mass manufacturing testing. i got a copy of the plan that cdc laid out of how this would unfold. they had six months. >> we didn't have six months. we didn't have six days. you could argue two things. we didn't have the right agency in charge. we didn't have the right approach the try to get the tools we needed in place to deal with what could be a fast moving pandemic but we also didn't foe see what this would become. there were still people who thought this could be controlled even as late as february. we were looking back at the quotes of officials and in february there was still skepticism of whether we could contain this. >> i read that cdc still has not stepped up to this new operational charge. you say in the book that you think the entity that should do this. in washington, we're all conscious of the organizational charts approximate should we combine agencies. i think you recommends this operational enti

next week the cdc meets. they have proven this vaccine is mount an immune response and in a limited data set appears to be safe. the cdc has to say do we recommend it? in the united states whatever the cdc recommends turns into a mandate. the cdc needs to scrutinize who should get this vaccine? next week thek cdc meets. so while they proven that this vaccine can mount an immune response and this limited dataset does appear to be safe, who do we save to recommend it. in the united states, whatever the cdc recommends turns into a mandate. the cdc needs to scrutinize who should get this vaccine? tailored to those with preexisting medical conditions? cdc suggests 40% of children in this age group may already have natural immunity. the cdc needs to get away from the universal vaccines because it turns into mandates. >> sean: they don't want to hear it. nearly 800,000 people in israel. i want to see the science but early indications natural immunity is 27 more times effective than the vaccines. we are waiting for t

the cdc recommends masking adults, not kids in primary schools. unicef specifically recommends against masking kids under age five. cricket six to 11, they consider other factors. the impact on learning and social development. i would submit today that we must put our kids first. high yields back. >> all members opening statements be part of the record. i want to introduce the witnesses for today's hearing. the president of the american academy of pediatrics. the president of children's hospital at vanderbilt. dr. arthur evans, the chief executive officer at the american psychological association, a virtual witness who is the founder of -- if you have not read her resume, it's incredibly impressive. an epidemiologist and public health expert in private practice position. with that, welcome everybody. we are excited to hear what you say from a scientific and personal perspective, and i'm sure you all know that this committee takes his testimony under old. does anyone have any objection to testifying under of? let the record reflect the witnesses re

if it's authorized by the fda and cdc, we will be ready. we have the supply i want to emphasize it's a different supply for kids is a different dose so they will be getting supply to providers and we will bring that vaccine as we talked about and we will work as we have throughout the trusted messengers who can answer questions for parents and kids. we have the supply and we will be ready. >> last question. i was hoping to follow up on what the doctor felt she was saying. what is that threshold that would mean it's under control? i think you said may be 10,000 cases per day that might be 100 deaths per day which would make it similar to the flu but does that mean we are kind of perpetually living with it what is thatt threshold? >> i can't give you the precise number. i mean, i've said in the past, and i think it's a reasonable assumption i said less than 10,000. i would hope that it would be considerably less than 10,000 regarding it being like the flu, people have spoken in those terms and i don't know if we can definitively say that. one

so cdc director dr. walensky said the situation is a prime example of how easy it is to undermine efforts to protect children too young to be vaccinated. dr. beers, your testimony stresses that, quote, vaccines are the key to dramatically decreasing the spread of the virus and allowing children to return to a more normal semblance of life, which is what we all want. why is it important for the health of ineligible children that their older peers and adults get the vaccine and how does this help support safe schools as students return to the classroom? >> thank you for that. as we have discussed right now, children under the age of 12 don't have any access to vaccine and even when i think we're hopeful that we will have a vaccine for 5 to 11-year-olds, we'll still have much younger children who are not yet eligible. you get covid because you're exposed to it and vaccinated adolescents and adults have significantly lower rates of being infected with covid and so when the adults in a child's life are vaccin

but the cdc will have to make the final decision. their advisory panel is expected to meet in early november. mona? >> faith, thank you. >>> the effort to strike a deal on president biden's massive spending package appears to be getting more contentious. sources say senator bernie sanders pushed to keep the bill's price tag at $3.5 trillion and senator joe manchin fired back saying he would be comfortable doing nothing at all. senator kyrsten sinema remains opposed to paying for the bill with tax increases on the wealthy. president biden acknowledged last night that raising corporate tax rates is now unlikely. the president also said he's open to ending the senate filibuster for voting rights and maybe more, which would allow democrats to pass bills with a simple majority vote. during a town hall last night, biden said senators will have to fundamentally alter the filibuster at some point. >>> the justice department must decide whether to prosecute former president trump's long time ally steve bannon. nine house republicans joined de

the cdc a short time ago on boosters. there is news tonight on queen elizabeth spending the night in the hospital. but we do begin this evening with news just coming in moments ago from the fbi. they now say the human remains found in a florida nature reserve are those of brian laundrie. that confirmation tonight from the fbi after this month-long search now for brian laundrie. much of it centered on the diffswerinn florida. all of it, of course in the case of gabby petito. a little more than 24 hours ago, the discovery of laundrie's backpack and notebook and what were believed to be human remains. it was laundrie's parents who led authorities along the trail where his remains were found and their attorney tonight clarifying the timeline of this discovery. and tonight, the petito and laundrie families both reacting to this news from the fbi. abc's trevor ault leading us off from florida tonight. >> reporter: tonight, authorities confirming the remains discovered in florida's carlton nature reserve are those of brian laund

so cdc director, dr.alensky, said the situation is a prime example of how [inaudible] undermine efforts to protect children too young to be vaccinated. doctor beers, your testimony [inaudible] that, quote, vaccines are [inaudible] by decreasing the spread of the virus and allowing children to return to a more normal semblance of life, which is what we all white. why is it important that the [inaudible] ineligible children and their older peers and adults get the vaccine, and how does this help support [inaudible] return to the classroom? >> thank you for that. you know, as we've discussed right now, children under the age of 12 don't have any access to vaccine, and even when, i think we are hopeful that we'll have a vaccine for five to 11 year old, was to have much younger children who are not yet eligible. as we know, children, anyone, you get [inaudible] exposed to it, and vaccinated, 11 adults have significantly, significantly lower rates of being infected with covid. and so when the adults in a child'

well-informed by information in analytical work by the cdc, the cdc put out guidance to maintain 6 feet themselves that was a costly of guidance through the whole pandemic, enforcement and schools to remain shut and forced many businesses to remain shut because they could not allow for 6 feet of distance between the customers or students that was not based on sound science it was based on old science looking a droplet transmission and influenza we know the coronavirus bread primarily through aerosol and respiratory particles, the guidance wasn't revised louis finally revises spring with the biden administration put pressure on cdc to revisit the guidance they recognize the six-foot requirement was forcing schools to remain shut cdc settled on a conclusion as long as children are wearing masks they can maintain 3 feet of distance and that would be appropriate they based on a study last fall where they looked at mass individuals and found that two people wearing masks and 3 feet apart you can reduce transmission by 70% which begs the question if they had the result, the study result in th

even the cdc does not recommend measles vaccine if you have measles immunity. the same was true for smallpox. but you ignore history and science to shame the flat earthers, as you call them. you should be ashamed of yourself and apologize to the american people for being dishonest about naturally acquired immunity. you want more people to choose vaccination? so do i. you want to lessen vaccine hesitancy? so do i. you want to have that happen? quit lying to people about naturally acquired immunity. quit lording it over people, acting as if these people are deplorable and unwashed. try persuasion instead of government cudgels. try humility instead of arrogance. try freedom instead of coercion. most of all, try understanding there is no more basic medical right than deciding what we inject into our bodies. today, half a hearing that millions of people in a study prove -- show without a doubt that there is a great deal of immunity from getting it naturally, do you want to apologize to the 100 million americans who suffered through covid, survived, have immunity, an

how soon before the fda and the cdc could give this the okay?aying tonight on the flu shot. how soon should you be getting it? >>> also tonight, abortion and the right to choose and the legal battle unfolding right now in texas. a judge now halting that state's new controversial law banning nearly all abortions in that state. but where this heads next and why many clinics are hesitate to reopen in texas. >>> the u.s. attack submarine in an underwater collision in the pacific. martha raddatz standing

the big decision made by the cdc. >>> and remains identified. the manhunt for brian laundrie is officially over. how officials say hey were able to identify his remains. >>> good morning, everyone. really good to see you. i'm anne-marie green. we're going to begin with breaking news overnight. a tragic scene on the set of the latest alec baldwin movie in new mexico. one woman is dead and another person is wounded. the santa fe county sheriff's office says baldwin discharged a prop firearm that killed the director of photography, halyna hutchins, and injured the director of the film, joel soza. production has been halted on the western film while an investigation takes place into just what type of projectile was fired and how it happened. no charges have been filed yet, though. here you can see baldwin who is starring and producing in the movie clearly distraught. pictures show him outside of the sheriff's office after being questioned about the incident. >>> in the meantime, tens of millions of americans are eligible to receive a covid booster d

it needs to reside in the cdc but in a much different component of the cdc. we also did not have the base of manufacturing we thought we would have. we couldn't scale up quickly the amount of drugs, like the new merck drug filed today, and even the vaccine. there was a perception that you would have facilities you would sort of overbuild and mothball and ready in times of crisis, and what we learned is that does not work, that in order to keep a facility ready for a time of crisis, it has to be in constant operation. so we need to figure out how to operate certain components of our manufacturing base for maximum resiliency, building more resiliency into the system. finally, on the data question, we did not have the capacity to collect information in a real-time fashion to inform ourselves what is going on and do the quick analytical work that would help us ascertain how this virus was spreading, what the associated geographic parts of spread work, so we were wiping down our groceries, thinking this was spreading through contaminated surfaces, when it was real

so we will continue to work with the cdc. as their guidance changes, we will implement this how schools. but we will rely on our health experts who have guided us to this point. >> but the problem is is that the guidance from our health experts over the past year has been conflicting and inconsistent. and that heightens the distrust in these institutions at the time when the public needs to be able to rely on them. i think the latest example of this confusing, conflicting advice has to do with the booster shots. and that leads me to my next and final question for secretary busts era. as a longtime director of the vaccine research review and our deputy are leaving this fall, in part because of the decision-making over boosters, this weekend the cdc director commented and conceded the confusion in messaging around who should receive the booster. this was after she overruled the recommendation of her own advisory committee. to public health experts from brown and harvard wrote in the new york times, that the federal recommendati

cdc if fda decides to proceed with this cdc will pick it up and consider the data with an independentrms of whether they need to direct toward how this would be deployed and used and i think that surveillance systems will be critical here and i am hoping this starts off as a campaign if it moves forward that starts with choice and parents and their care providers partnering in those decisions. thank you. >> thank you. >> there is a recommendation that says discretion and how it is used as opposed to a mandate which i think we all be concerned about at this point. we are going to get plenty of experience with this. we will know how safe this is. i agree with dr. cohen. you want to save the kids you can save. i think it will be useful to have a lot more information though to determine how best to deploy the vaccine. i am still -- i think that we ended up in between and decided to vote with a heavy conscious but i am hoping this is a start in learning more about it. >> so i think this is a valuable tool for prevention of covid. i know i've been very worried hearing about pediatric hospit

next week the cdc meets.y have proven this vaccine is mount an immune response and in a limited data set appears to be safe. the cdc has to say do we recommend it? in the united states whatever the cdc recommends turns into a mandate. the cdc needs to scrutinize who should get this vaccine? tailored to those with preexisting medical conditions? cdc suggests 40% of children in this age group may already have natural immunity. the cdc kneads needs to get away from the universal vaccines because it turns into mandates. >> sean: they don't want to hear it. -- nearly 800,000 people in israel. i want to see the science but early indications natural immunity is 27 more times effective than the vaccines. we are waiting for the peer review am dana, there has been shaming and scolding. what fries me, if you look at cops and first responders and nurses and the military, these are the people who went into work at the height of this. many of whom got covid themselves and contracted it. for whatever reason, they have made

it needs to reside in the cdc but in a much different component of the cdc.e also did not have the base of manufacturing we thought we would have. we couldn't scale up quickly the amount of drugs, like the new merck drug filed today, and even the vaccine. there was a perception that you would have facilities you would sort of overbuild and mothball and ready in times of crisis, and what we learned is that does not work, that in order to keep a facility ready for a time of crisis, it has to be in constant operation. so we need to figure out how to operate certain components of our manufacturing base for maximum resiliency, building more resiliency into the system. finally, on the data question, we did not have the capacity to collect information in a real-time fashion to inform ourselves what is going on and do the quick analytical work that would help us ascertain how this virus was spreading, what the associated geographic parts of spread work, so we were wiping down our groceries, thinking this was spreading through contaminated surfaces, when it was really

longstanding best practice for the cdc to engage in organizations. it doesn't mean they are taking everything they want or even a percentage of what they want. >> harris: you pull back the layers on this onion and it is stinky. who do we trust, dr. siegel? >> i think the teachers unions have a huge influence on the white house because they are big donors and back the democrats. that's one. i don't necessarily agree that the cdc is part of that but they should understand and didn't understand that the teachers unions are only caring about teachers, not children. that's how come you end up with these mask superimposed brutal mask mandates instead of what should be the focus, which is on testing at home of kids before they come to school with free tests around the country especially in poor neighborhoods and vaccines to teachers and vaccines to eligible children. masks are the final barrier and that's if everything else has failed. in areas where there is not a lot of virus around and where everybody is compliant with the vaccine they're much less impor

>> we felt with the cdc downgrading us yesterday, we were actually yellow. it changes from day-to-day, but we built in an off switch when we wrote the mandate. we felt it was important to do that. masks continue to be very important in preventing or minimizing the spread of respiratory illness including covid-19. but we felt the mandate should correspond to an emergency. this is a tool in our toolbox that we don't frankly want to wear it out. so if we do need to reinstitute a mask mandate, we want to make sure that the public understands the mandate itself corresponds to a rapid rise in case rates. right now, we're not in that situation. we felt it was safe to do this. you know, most people, especially in our county, i observe them every day. most people are wearing masks. i don't think a mandate makes much difference there. >> dr. ghandi, do you think this is a good idea to ease some of these restrictions when it comes to wearing a mask indoors? >> yes. i think what you did there in santa cruz is completely reasonable, because the reason is this -- we don't

guidance was put up on the cdc website sometime friday night and saturday morning. out there for two and a half days with people thinking they would have to virtually celebrate the holidays again this year, and now two and a half days later, the cdc says, no, technical problem. we'll have your holiday guidance soon. is that a big mess-up or what? >> hallie, i'm flabbergasted by this. this is not the first time there has been misunderstanding about messages and misstated messages coming from the cdc and other agencies. i think the administration has to get its act together on this. we cannot have this. for one thing it really undermines the credibility of the public in these cdc guidelines and in the messages about controlling the pandemic. but the other problem, of course, politically for president biden is that he's got a lot of other irons in the fire, very complicated political agendas around the debt ceiling and international issues and the budget and everything else. he does not need to have the public scratching their heads about what it is they're trying to s

following the fda and cdc decision last week pfizer, j&j and motrin are now available for tens of millions of eligible americans. we workk with governors, state and local health departments, pharmacies, doctory health centers and long-term care facility to be ready for this moment. thanks to planning and preparation we are off to a veryng strong start. in just the first five days, one.5 million americans got the enhance protection of modern or j&j booster shots. and 15 million americans now have received an additional dose of phaser or internet or j&j. so the booster program is off to a strong start. we are working with states and pharmacies and other partners to efficiently and equitably get boosters to tens of millions of eligible americans. we are also planning for the rollout. 28million young americans to become eligible should the fda authorize and cdc recommend ages five through 11. states placed initial orders of vaccines for kids and without authorization millions of doses should be shipped immediately to tens of thousands of pediatricians, family doctors, children's hospitals, com

take a listen to the cdc director dr. rochelle walensky this morning. >> we'll not boost our way out of this pandemic. even after you boost, it remains important for us to remain smart about our prevention strategies while we still have over 93% of our counties with high or moderate community transmission. >> how much urgency should people eligible for a booster shot take to get that extra dose? >> i think they should do it right away. what we know is after six months the efficacy of this -- of these vaccines to prevent infection wanes significantly. and the sooner you get boosted, the more your protection is. i think if you've been -- not i think. we know if you've been vaccinated, you're very unlikely to get severely ill, should you get a breakthrough infection. but it's going to take you out of action for a couple of weeks. and more importantly, it then makes you more likely to infect somebody else who may be vulnerable. either unvaccinated or immunocompromised. so everyone who is eligible for a booster should get a bo

that's up to the cdc.y question was if the cdc would acknowledge it and the child has antibodies would you excuse him from the mandate? we need to go on. i'm very concerned about migrants come across a border carrying infectious diseases as well, probably over 3 million have come across the border illegally, legally and many of which are children. i'm very concerned about not just the code and the variance they are bringing but tuberculosis. haiti hasnt the highest incidene of tuberculosis in western hemisphere. measles, mumps as well. what are you two met going to do to test those children before they get into our schools to make sure they get their immunization? secretary becerra. >> great question and we do as you know have jurisdiction over some of those migrant children who are unaccompanied and were jurisdiction over them once it went over to us by customs and border protection. we make sure no child is placed in any setting whether it's in our care or in a licensed care facility or in the hands of a

if the cdc signs off on vaccines for 5 to 11-year-olds, it will be a big moment. only for families, but for entire communities. i will lead to changes when it comes to the indoor mask mandates. here is nbc bay area's jean elle. >> reporter: bay area health officials say once enough children are vaccinated, or eight weeks after cdc approval, you will no longer have to wear a mask in many indoor settings. at this point, schools are not one of those settings, and one bay area health expert said that should change. 7-year-old isaiah herring and his mom carol say they are ready for the cdc to authorize the pediatric covid vaccine. they want isaiah protected so he can safely see family. >> me and my dad are going to go to north carolina to celebrate christmas. >> yeah. with his family, who they haven't seen in two years. >> reporter: health experts say vaccinating kids will provide more community protection, allowing for changes to mask rules. >> the larger masking requirements are being endorsed anywhere right now. those are tied to kids getting vaccinated. >> reporter