. >> i'll be honest i'm not very familiar with the gao study, but my broad reaction would be the cdpir marine office within u.s. customs and border protection has a variety of platforms. they do specific missions. so if you say hey, is an a-star valuable? i would say yes, if it's giving air to ground support. it's for deployment and it's only being flown once we have a tip and q and we have someone to go after it. when you say, we want to go up and down the border and detect people coming across. my answer is it's probably not the best utilization of that asset. the same could be true of a uh 60 helicopter or a uh system. we're not familiar if it's cost effective, we just want to make sure we're using its capability for its intended use and not just, let's get up in the air and start looking for people. which by the way, ten years ago, we needed them because we didn't have a lot of detection capability. and by the way and robert can probably appreciate this also, as a border patrol agent working by myself in the middle of nowhere and not able to get communication out, when i started

. >> border crosses are typically apprehended, of course, cdp we usually border patrol. sometimes ports of entry. they are put into her sent ties tries to take custody of. typically their in that proceeding. the tension is mandatory. they are able. an officer with us eis. there are always exceptions for humanitarian reasons. typically an adult apprehended at the border is placed in detention under an expedited removal proceeding. >> the amnesty type of claims, the people released from detention. >> i don't have those numbers. >> we do have those numbers. >> i might have those numbers. >> can use secure those and send them to us? >> you're referring to people released after apprehension at the border. >> yes it's. >> pending a hearing on their status. >> typically if an adult were released after having been apprehended at the border it would only be because they have been determined to have effective other credible fear of persecution. >> i understand all that. it's mr. franklin -- jones sorry. zero-tolerance sexual assault policy have the same force of law? >> in terms o

picture but also being able to work with together whether it's air or marine versus other pieces of cdpnational guard comes to mind in some instances in the recent past, so could you talk a little bit about you mentioned interagency partnerships but expand upon that in terms of how that impacts the articles or the thoughts behind your articles. how do you integrate interagency folks? >> so interagency folks, when we talk about integration, the second article talks a little bit about the black swan theory. it's one of the more common questions i get about second article, what was that for us? and it was, literally, unrestrained integration. it is the ability that we have through the interagency process when we want to, when we focus on individual targets to stop crime, to stop illicit border activity that no doubt came from -- [inaudible] murder. but also the south texas campaign. when the south texas campaign was developed, it had to bring everyone in the same room, and it had to go beyond co-location or cooperation, had to be true integration. it had to have everyone in the same room,