councilman cecil bathwell has been known as wanting to the sub committee that reviewed proposals today made it clear they are laying the ground work. since 2014, the haywood lot has sat empty. leased by a downtown builder. that lease up in july, precisely when changes may start. todd, asheville's planning and urban design director presented the planning and economic development committee with cities that held competitions to create a public park space. >> two examples of what other cities have done in terms of a >> kim: vice chair and council member gwen. >> what i'd like to do is i'd like to form that stakeholder meeting today or very quickly. >> kim: cecil bathwell, not on the committee. >> i'd like to see the public involved early in the process to get ideas from the public. i think that once people see the place activated, they'll get more excited about the overall idea. >> kim: again, full council has not yet approved plans. chris of the asheville design center learned he could also be involved. >> it needs to be designed correctly in order to do that. you can't run a walker over