joining us in the studio is the reverend cecil williams and janiskatani from glide memorial church.o see you here. we also meet under special circumstances but how bad is the situation right now. >> we want to meet every need possible, especially those of people who really find it difficult to make ends meet. the fear of crisis we're always facing has to do with hunger, of course. for us to talk about hunger is to talk about how long our lives are this year. >> does it seem longer than ever. >> there are nor jobless and tremendous increase. people are not working. i looked the other day and i saw a number of people dressed who undoubtedly had been looking for jobs, but they had to have food so here they come. our line extended more and more. then, of course, there is always the families that we find in great need. this is the time if we're really going to deal with hunger, this is the time to do it. this is why it's so important that you and others invite us to let the word get out the great need we're facing at this time and it's hunger and it's very serious. >> janice, the populat