only two, celia and george, by the time newsom is killed. what sort of community would that have been for celia? a modest one. perhaps one that was profoundly transient. we see enslaved people there and then disappear. were they sold? did they run away? we can't know. but transient. we can see the relationship with george and how that was immodest and perhaps a somewhat impoverished context to jacobs. siobhan pointed to the context that they are both mothers. motherhood is a theme we have come back to again and again. we see two women who clearly -- on one hand, jacobs secrets herself, looking not only to secure her own liberty away from north carolina, but thinking very strategically about how to secure the liberty of her children. which, eventually she will achieve. celia on the other hand, with two small children, and there is that moment that seems to be the case she gives herself up in a futile, but still powerful attempt to deflect the threat that if she won't tell the story, she will be separated from her children. motherhood, right, a

george. wheret into the cookhouse celia was. i told her she knew where her master was, that george had set enough to make the believe she knew where he was. she denied it." more deeplys even implicated, even more deeply implicated. now relating again his interpretation, his memory of his first confrontation with celia in the kitchen. i told her she knew where her master was, that george and set enough to make me believe she knew where he was. what he toldxactly us just prior that george said. george said something about celia's cabin, but you can see how powell and others investigating this case begin to andern that between celia george might be a space in which they can insert some doubt, that might confusion , mightm more evidence even net them a confession. andbeginning to play celia george off one another in a perhaps, embellishing, what george has said to him. remains resolute that she had nothing to do with this. finally, jefferson jones -- you will remember he is a neighboring farmer, a large farmer in fulton. his farm is

celia didn't have that. she had george maybe. the right we have a justice of the peace's writing of celia's testimony. maybe i have -- no, that wasn't it. let's try. here down on the right you can see the x. [ inaudible ] >> celia couldn't. that comes into play whether or not she would have had a different outcome for the trial or not. >> good. yeah? >> the narratives are different. harry jacobs was obviously written by herself. her story we know. through what she's told us. and celia's story is what we know from the court cases and testimonies which can be questionable. >> yeah. this is great. part of this question about literacy, come back to the question of isolation. literacy and isolation are two ways in which we can think about dramatically the ways in which not only the stories unfold but our capacity to remember them are shaped. jacobs is literate even as she's enslaved in north carolina. we remember this becomes part of the drama between her and dr. flint precisely because he passes part of his terror is to pass her note

so there is a strong suggestion that there is an intimate relationship between celia. georgeth her this notion that george has urged celia, suggested strongly to celia that she should avoid newsom, it's possible that theirs is a more friendly kind of relationship like they are brother and sister, and george is looking out for celia's% interest. but it seems to be more likely that he had been staying with her, that they had an intimate relationship of a sort. and there's no question now when we get to the question of jones, that celia herself is re-enforcing the theory that certainly george played a role in this story, though she's quite resolute still, even here in her confrontations with jones, that george has not advised her to harm newsom, did not conspire with her to kill newsom, did not have a physical hand either in harming newsom or disposing of the body these are all the kinds of questions that we have. but it's clear, there's a role. he goes on she said, struck with the right hand on the right side of his head, i asked her if she did not know, that she could not have

each and i can tell you that when george is sold -- when we account of record of george's sale alongside is the sale of celia's daughters out of the newsom household as well. so new evidence allows us to add new layers and think with important nuance about this case. one more i think important question. slavery and the law of rape. let's go back to the trial. part of what you know is that at the end of this trial, the presiding trial judge will instruct the jurors in this case. what does it mean to instruct the jurors. here jurors are not legal professionals, they don't have any special knowledge of the law, be it of rape, be it of murder, be it of self-defense. and part of the court's role is at the end of the hearing of the evidence to instruct the jury to educate the jury to direct the jury about the law so that jurors can weigh the evidence and ultimately the question of celia's guilt against the law as the court instructs it. so i want to look again at the state law, and then at the actual jury instructions in this case. we learn i think, from this the ways in which the powerful role that many a local jud

each and i can tell you that when george is sold -- when we account of record of george's sale alongside is the sale of celia's two daughters out of the newsom household as well. so new evidence allows us to add new layers and think with important nuance about this case. one more i think important question. slavery and the law of rape. let's go back to the trial. part of what you know is that at the end of this trial, the presiding trial judge will instruct the jurors in this case. what does it mean to instruct the jurors. here jurors are not legal professionals, they don't have any special knowledge of the law, be it of rape, be it of murder, be it of self-defense. and part of the court's role is at the end of the hearing of the evidence to instruct the jury to educate the jury to direct the jury about the law so that jurors can weigh the evidence and ultimately the question of celia's guilt against the law as the court instructs it. so i want to look again at the state law, and then at the actual jury instructions in this case. we learn i think, from this the ways in which the powerful role that many a local