i'm celia james robinson, professor of global conflict studies of the legacy of chicago's or a school of public policy. as, as a scholar, what do you think about the fact that even questioning the historical context of what the russians have done, is to make yourself be a put in apologise. it's as if, i mean, i don't know if you, if you look at too much about the treaty of versailles and churchill serv, killing of maybe 250000 in the rhineland, in 1919 or something and trace routes of world war 2. you weren't called a nazi. why is it now that if you start to look at these contexts of global conflict, you watch a magic mirror calder. you're putin apologise. yeah, well, it's very emotional moment. is this way. ah, it's like football teams or something. no, i. yeah, i don't, i, it's difficult to have a sort of rational discussion, perhaps about these historical roots of these conflicts or no territorial disputes in the middle of a conflict like this done where you saw the light in history also is varied, is difficult and ambiguous. do you, do you think the china can replace demand that m