for more, we are joined by celina escher, a salvadoran-swiss filmmaker who directed the award-winningary "fly so far" about the criminalization of abortion in el salvador, where dozens of people have been convicted and imprisoned after having miscarriages, stillbirths, and other obstetric emergencies. welcome back to democracy now! it is great to have you with us. we look from the united states to el salvador. is el salvador united states' future? talk about the tot ban but also the resistance. >> thank you for having me. el salvador, abortion is still criminalized. there's no possibility to have an abortion. women are still criminalized and imprisoned. but there is a big resisnce still happening in el salvador. people have lost their human rights and people are being unjustly incarcerated in el salvador. there's a big movement to try to legalize abortion and four cases and also in three cases, but now i feminist leader is facing -- she's being persecuted. she is the woman also in my film. she wanted to legalize abortion in four paces and now she is facing persecution, political perse