the question is does the census bureau actually get it right? it tries. the senses has generally gotten more accurate over time as i think john mention, but it is not an equal opportunity enumeration. the census does not count all population groups equally well. people of color are missed at disproportionately high rates. low income households in both urban and rural areas are missed at higher rates. while non-hispanic whites and higher income households were over counted in the 2010 census. also at risk of being missed, immigrants, female single-parent households, female headed single parent households, young mobile adults. icf you in here, are all at risk of not being counted. and most notably, children under the age of five have the highest undercount of any age group. in 2010, in most of the nation's largest counties, one in ten children, young children, were not counted. black and hispanic in children are missed at twice the rate of other young children. now, at the national level, census undercounts and over counts, basically cancel each other out so

to june 2017,13 he served as the census bureau's director. he served the people for 27 2002 inom 1975 to ,arious positions at the bureau including as associate director responsible for all aspects of the 2000 census. in addition to the census bureau, thompson has held multiple other positions. he served as president and ceo of norc at the university of chicago. it was a member of the committee on national statistics. as part of his work, he served on two panels related to the 2010 senate. he participated as a member of the step panel and design of the 2010 census program and all the panel reviewing the 2010 census. carrion lowenthal served 14 years as a congressional aide, including eight years in 1987 through 1994 as director of the house census and population subcommittee. since leaving the hill, terry and has remained engaged in this issue. she served on the obama presidential transition team that and advised on statistical activities. philanthropy, civil rights advocates, stan local governments, and business data users. she is an alumna of

census bureau director. this is about an hour 15 minutes. >>> why don't we go ahead and get started. hello, everyone and for our guests, welcome to georgetown law. as you know we're here today to learn about the challenges facing conessential 2020. the constitution mandates that the census for the purposes of apportioning representation in the house of representatives. during the first congress james madison who is the congressman representing virginia recognized that the census allowed for data driven decisions. he encouraged congress to add questions to the census so that congress could debate and decide on facts instead of assertions and conjectures. today, we have a highly esteemed panel to speak about these challenges and some of the consequences of the enume ration. first we have director john h. thompson. he's the executive director of the council of professional associations on federal statistics also known as copas. he has more than 30 years of experience working both statistical and executive posit

this move was also done over the advice of the career civil servants at the census bureau because theocus groups found people of color, asian or americans and more reluctant to return the census if this question was asked. and so this will have real consequences not only in terms of disenfranchising people but leading to the loss of critical dollars that help communities. >> and the census bureau had done -- i think you might be alluding this and to ramona, and they found that when this question was asked, lower numbers participated in the census. at least in their testing in the polling here. does that make sense to you? >> not really. it is not asking -- this question about citizenship doesn't are you here illegally or an undocumented resident of the its and just if you are a citizen. there are a lot of people that are green card holders or spouses of green card hoerlds who are here legally. but not citizens. and they'll have no problem answering the question. and in fact, it is also the case that the census bureau is not allowed to share the information that it collects with any ot

of subject, but relat in ay because it's administration policy, david, as we learned from the census bureau, from the administration, the trumpti administ, that what the census folks are going to do in 2020 is add a question about people's citizenship, raising all kinds of questions about whether this is going to be a deterrent to people

the census form has already been carefully tested and the census bureau is embarking on a full end-to-end testing of the whole census so it's a very late to upset the basis of the census at this point. >> i guess the big concern for an undocumented immigrant is that if they feel they are answer this truthfully that immigration will hunt them down and try to kick them out of the country do you think that is the fear? >> the senses truly is confidential, these fears are unfounded. they are mistaken but the fears are out there and in the interest of some people they encourage them in the political arena but the census bureau does not share the data. we can expect that if the question goes on and is appears , it is going to frighten people. it may reduce response and it might encourage false sensors and we might get poor information about citizenship. >> we are all encouraged to fill out a form that we are not required under law to fill out the form and we're also not rick wired to answer every question on the form are we? >> we are required to answer that. >> all we are but these laws have n

in the 2010 census, 1.5 million people of color were undercounted, were not counted by the census bureau. that undercount could be dramatically larger now under trump because immigrants are going to be afraid to respond to the census now. what donald trump is doing is turning the senses, which is a constitutionally mandated act every 10 years, he is turning it into a tool of voter suppression of nativist resentment. that is so shocking for our democracy. amy: i want to go back to the white house spokesperson sarah huckabee sanders who attempted to of defend the census citizenp question. let's go back to her comments. >> once again i would argue this has been the practice of the united states government. the purpose is to determine individuals that are here. it also has to comply with the voting rights act. without it that information, it is hard to make those determinations. that information is to be gathered and it has been part of the united states insists every time we have had a census since 1965 with the one exception of the 2010 census. amy: what about what she said? >> there are t

republican president, president bush, he says, quote, it would be a horrendous problem for the census bureau and create controversies. the guy who ran the census under richard nixon and ford and carter says adding this question would be, quote, beyond comprehension at this point, it would be really bad. four former census directors told the supreme court in a legal filing, if this particular question was added to the census, the sum effect would be bad census data. and yet, the trump administration is going ahead and doing it. they announced they are adding a citizenship question to the next census, which is set for 2020. they are adding this question without even testing it, without doing any preparation on what effect this might have on the overall census. that's despite the fact that everybody who has run the census for the last 40 years says don't do it, it will screw everything up. they like decided they will pour sugar in the gas tank. why have they decided that? everybody says no, everybody knows it's really bad for your car to put sugar in the gas tank but, yeah, they are going ahead

census bureau until last year and had been with the census bureau for three decades. he is the executive director of the council for professional associations on federal statistics. help us understand what this concern is, the fear of under counts here. the conversations that i've had, specifically in sort of mixed status families they may see this question exist on the census and say simply we're not going to participate. >> sure. so, first, i think it's really important to understand what the census is used for. so the census is used for reapportioning congress, it's used for ensuring fair districts, it's used to allocate over $600 billion a year in federal funds. it's also used to ensure the accuracy of virtually every other federal and private data collection activity in the united states that produces information from the people. so it's what makes something called the mesh community survey accurate. it makes the american population survey which produces statistics accurate. >> right. >> if there's a lack of representation in the census, then that lack of represe

but commerce secretary wilbur ross who overseeing the census bureau defended the move this morning. >the justice department feels they need it so they can enforce section 2 of the voting rights act which protects minority voters. that's the genesis of the request for adding this question back in. we've done elaborate analyses within the census department and we've concluded that the benefits to the voting rights act enforcement of asking the question outweighs these other issues. >> the question dates back 200 years from 1820, but pulled from the census in 1950. critics worry bringing it back could lead to lower rates and an under count, costing california one seat in the house of representatives. joining me vanita gupta. you heard what wilbur ross had to say, he said to protect people or enforce the voting rights act, what do you say? >> we should have a serious question about the motive when attorney general jeff sessions, who has done -- taken a number of steps to undermine the enforcement of the voting rights act at the justice department, is asking to add a citizenship in the nam

immigrant communities which already feel under attack by the government under mounds or worked of a census bureaufor five years it's always an issue whenever the government is requesting information from people who reside in the country and it's not just immigrants that are affected there is distrust of government at all levels at all such economic levels and graphically across this country how do you reassure the public that there's nothing untoward going no political interference exactly because. an undercount in u.s. states with large immigrant communities will have funding consequences for all citizens in such states whether republican stronghold texas will staunchly democrat california there is a clue to the motivation for this census change the investigative organization pro publica found that the request for the questions inclusion was drafted by a lawyer. gore was defending redistricting maps that were challenged. by opponents of racial gerrymandering essentially drawing districts so sort of slice up certain commune news in ways that would be favorable to the republican party under the co

census bureau, the last time we had the census, this is internal census documents now public, they undercountedatinos by 1.5% is, african-americans by 2%, undercounted african-americans by 4%. that was 2010. this time we have such a politicized environment where people are afraid of donald trump's deportation force and feel betrayed by daca. there's so much mistrust with the government. as the going to depress turnout among many latin knows. in this country we have stipulated say between 9 and 16 million mixed status family. that will be a family where maybe the children are citizens but the parents are undocumented. in many of those families they'll throw it away there's such fear and anxiety about the government. >> chris, address that then. he said in the age of trump, we're going to reintroduce this is 70 years after it was last on there. it happens to be a president who talks about walls and deportation. what raul is saying, mixed status family, wouldn't that discourage participation. >> it's at worst laughable. donald trump becomes a convenient foil in these kind of situations. if you're

i think this census has always been the census bureau is not political. the numbers, of course, are political, but not the process of cnting the american people. i think what we're stepping into is a condition where we're going to polarize the census, an that's not healthy, and can imagine a lot of people not being as cooperate i as they might have otherwise been. >> woodruff: do you think that necessarily nefits one political party or another? >> i think it's unpredictable. it will, but i don't want to sa it's going to favor the democrats or the republicans, i don't even know that and i don't ahink anyone knows that. i don't think its intentionally done that way, but i think it's going to have consequences which is simply going to lead to inaccuracy and unfairness, irrespective of who's suffering or rewarded in this. >> woodruff: kenneth prewett, former dector of the united states census, thank you very much. >> it was my pleasure, thank you, judy. >> woodruff: more than 40 years have pasd since a peanut farmer from plains, georgia captured the white hous

census bureau and now a professor at columbia university. >> i believe it will result in a less accurate ana less inclusive census than we would have hed without this qustion being put on the census at the last minute. >> woodruff: why? um, i think it's going to frighten people, certain segmenpo of thlation. we're already dealing with a lack of trust in the government, and we're certainly dealing with an immigration crisis about how we're rounding people up and so forth, and i thinthe citizenship question will come across as a statement that some peoplebelong here and others don't, but that's not what the constituodon says. >> wff: among other things, the administration is pointing out they've already been asking this quon on some census surveys over a number of years so that it's not that different from what they've done. >> no, it's asked on a number of places and the census bureau does a very accurate job of having very accurate reports open the citizenship of the population. it's used to advance the voting rights act, it works very well. so t extra but in a highly visible way. nothin

the history of the census bureau asking people if they are citizens and what their nationality is backvelt administration wanted to know who are japanese americans and where they lived. that census information was used to incarcerate 110,000 japanese americans, profoundly unconstitutional. was condemned in 1947 and said it would never happen again so they pulled it out of the questionnaire in 1950 and it hasn't been in there ever since. i don't know why the trump administration wanted in there but the government can ask you anything at once. you don't have to answer because you have a right to remain silent. the only question you have to answer when census people come knocking is how many people live there but the long form that asks how many bathrooms, what is the education, the income level, where do kids go to school, george w. bush when he was president famously received that at his ranch in waco, texas and know what he did in front of the camera? ripped it up. i'm not suggesting people break the law. the losses the? and macro. a judgment on the legal end of things. the job of the

i have worked with the census bureau. with state people more than with federal people. right now, the group i am is the intermediate school district. there are a lot of new families coming from yemen because of the war. they are coming under duress. money,n't have a lot of so the various school districts in michigan, the lower income districts are seeing this mushrooming of the yemeni population. they don't have chairs in their classroom. they don't have enough bilingual teachers to help with the program there. they don't know had a comedic it with families. of the things we have been doing is working with school districts to make sure they understand the demographic patterns so they can plan for the future. working in some communities with realtors to steer you many families to communities that have space in their schools as opposed to neighboring districts that are overcrowded. there is planning going on in trying to accommodate the populations. yes, we do consulting as a field. a lot of us work with different parts of the government, depending on our specialization.

the census bureau of courses the census bureau of course is under your purview, but it has been reported the department of commerce has been considered adding a citizenship to the 2020 census and there's a lot of fear that immigrant stakeholders that adding this question will create a lot of fear that many immigrants will filter was gone to the entire questionnaire, fearing that their legal status will come under scrutiny. there are many that argue the numbers reported from the census will be more inaccurate and more difficult to provide benefits and resources for low-income communities who are afraid to be counted. in fact, i have heard from many entities including the l.a. county board of supervisors unanimously wrote to congress urging opposition to the inclusion of the citizenship question, highlighting the l.a. county already faces challenges in county minorities and immigrants it hard to survey populations. in the 2010 census, more than 113,000 latino children in california and 47,000 latino children only county were not counted according to one survey that was done. so these inacc

how halls the census bureau prepared for that possibility?, the one thing about the census bureau that has been true for generations is that this information is not presented for any follow-up legal action at all. the privacy of the census is absolutely and, of course, they aggregate, but this -- it's been established for decades that it's not usable by the fbi or by any group in order to further an investigation. that's been true under republicans and democrats. i oversaw the last census as the head of the -- well, as subcommittee chairman then head of the oversight committee. i watched president obama try to politicize it by coming up with the idea that they would estimate the undercount. one thing under president trump is the destructions at census have been very clear. we are going to count everyone the way the constitution said so and that's what the secretary ross is doing. that's the president's wish. and getting accurate and full information is exactly what we're returning to, not what -- it's nothing new. >> julie: okay. i have got t

they grew 35% since the last census bureau housing and vacancy survey and total 247,000 units sitting vacant. a census bureau survey, not sure, john, if that is a federal or new york city thing, but i know we talked about the vacancy report, maybe we can look into it. it shows unoccupied units have ballooned by 65,000 or 35% of new york city housing stock. total of 11% of units in new york city vacant, 11%, even with rents at record levels. so, the editorial talks about how they recommended the city slap a surcharge on temporary occupancy, either the person moves in full-time to the units or pay a charge or give it up, and charge to go affordable housing fund. i think that's an interesting proposition. we adopted design guidelines last week and there were a couple of things that i think we omitted and i called some folks on staff and said we talked about this prior, one of them was to provide a checklist on all projects to make sure that we understand how they comport to the design guidelines. mr. johnson said, when we did the tour, the purpose was that the -- unless there is an extra

. >> i don't know how it's illegal for a federal agency like the census bureau to ask questions.e most is king. i'm sure the attorney general is afraid of the answer because they like to pretend everyone here is entitled to certain government carve outs of benefits. of course noncitizens aren't entitled to a lot of benefits. california could be hurt as a stage because they have numbers that are higher than their citizen population. >> bret: we should point out orange county is choosing to step away from the sanctuary state law, buck. >> one of the big fights playing out. jurisdictions within california and this will happen elsewhere i predict as well that say they don't want to be part of the lawlessness. california is very happy to pass state laws that will come down in any jurisdiction and private citizens. if you live in california and you violate any number of ordinances, the attorney general of california city criminally prosecute if you allow i.c.e. agents on your property under certain circumstances. they have really gone beyond what i think most americans are aware of. th

census bureau would plan to protect the privacy of respondents. >> the real question is, are we asking that question because we want to separate people? are we asking that question because we want to intimidate people? is that question being asked as a political statement? and i think the answer to that is, yes. >> reporter: california attorney general xavier becerra quickly filed a lawsuit against the department of commerce saying the citizenship question is unconstitutional and would violate federal statutes. he said an undercount would threaten at least one of california's seats in the house of representatives and would deprive its cities and counties of their fair share of billions of dollars in federal funds. >> medical services for transportation, for food, and for those safety net services we know many in our community really need. >> reporter: attorney general becerra wrote an op-ed on his lawsuit. we put a link to that on our website. we also put the announcement from the commerce department on our website as well. reporting live in san jose, matt keller, abc7 news. >> thank y

the census bureau says that citizenship data will help the justice department force the voting rightsct which protects minority voting rights. but they say that it's going to lead to an undercount that would impact everything from federal funding to political representation in congress. a coalition of 19 attorney generals are not challenging the question saying that it violates the constitution and federal statutes. and today an announcement that california is suing over. the state attorney general tweeted, the question it's not just a bad idea it

now the justice department has asked the census bureau to reinstated for the 2020 census. critics say that question can have a big effect on the accuracy of the headcount.>> adding a question for 2020 will probably make the senses less accurate. because more people will have fear of filling out this form. >> reporter: census officials have until the end of the month whether to include the citizens question on the form. >>>>> investigators are hoping that and i do vandalism -- at least nine businesses along alum rock avenue and at least eight vehicles parked on fifth street were damaged. video footage shows somebody firing a bb gun in the early morning hours from a passing car, shattering windows and causing thousands of dollars in damage. >> i know about 10 people that got damaged. my damage is about $4000 to repair. >> neighbors are turning to security footage over to police in hopes of catching the vandals.>>> school leaders at a windsor middle school are under fire after a student brought on airsoft pistol to school and fired it. the projectile hit a seventh grade boy.

how many toilets, income, education level, well beyond who lives in the house has entered the census bureauo oppressive when president george w. bush received a long form census as sitting president of the united states at his home in waco, texas, he ripped it up in front of a camera. i will tell you how many people who live here, nothing else. does the government prosecute for failure to answer all these questions? no. it could, but it doesn't. it only prosecutes if you falsify the answers. so someone is here illegally, will they answer that question truthfully? neil: what if they didn't ask? it was a big issue in 1940. >> i don't know what they did in the past. neil: but isn't a census return supposed to get a count of legal americans? >> well, the constitution doesn't specify. the constitution just says persons living. so the government has the right to know how many people live in new jersey, for example, so it can figure out how many representatives in the house of representatives new jersey had. neil: also what kind of services you will provide for that population? >> correct. you als

communitiesmerican survey is another survey that the census bureau sends out. e main difference is between the dissent deals census and the american community survey -- dec and the american communities survey is that the american communities survey is an ongoing survey and only reaches a small amount of homes, is the oncennial every 10 years, constitutionally mandated count. and the environments around each one are different. there is an outreach that goes into the official count, and that is the one that tries to count all people. host: what are the options going chance, and is there a that this can be appealed to some sort of court? states are, certain trying. state attorneys general have said they are going to or already have filed lawsuits in response to this question. naacp in october of 2017 filed suit rooted in similar concerns. and you have seen legislation in congress introduced by democrats to prevent things like the citizenship question being asked ial census.nn host: chase gunter, we appreciate the time. guest: thank you. host: we are asking our view

housing data released by the census bureau is expected to show that new construction slowed in february a result of poor weather here in the north—east. two key measures of us manufacturing activity will also be released. a miss in any of these figures could worry america's central bankers, especially after retail sales and inflation data came in lower than expected this week. the expectation is that the fed will continue to slowly raise us interest rates. but in order to do that, it will need the american economy to be growing at a healthy pace. joining us is simon derrick, chief markets strategist, bank of new york mellon. in terms of occurrences, we have this trade war, a great euphemism, for general chaos in the trade sphere. what effect is it having on currencies generally? i'm thinking about the three main ones. currencies generally? i'm thinking about the three main oneslj currencies generally? i'm thinking about the three main ones. i think the one that is really starting to emerge as being a beneficiary for this has been the japanese yen. maybe because a little bit it is a safe

how dare the census bureau actually take a census? god forbid. the other questions, the other thing that really bugs me, this is an example of california spending taxpayer money to assist noncitizens rather than the citizens themselves. they wonder why people are leaving. it's because they are not getting the services. they ask about your date of birth which is ageist. how dare they do that? ethnic origin. racist. occupation. that's work-ist. what about marital history? that is single-ist. it's not a census. it's nonsense. you need data so you help peopl people. the problem is if you undermine the system because of some kind of symbolic ideology, you are going to end up with economic chaos. you need to know what people are there. >> jesse: if you were an illegal immigrant and taking the census, dana, would you be scared to check the box "i am here illegally." >> dana: you are scared of mass deportation. in the 1950s, there was a mass deportation in the eisenhower administration. i think it's probably why this question was taken off later. i'm not

they're calling on the justice department to explain why they asked the census bureau to ask a question about citizenship. they said that question exacerbates the theory already plaguing the immigrant community. >> we've heard concerns from the families they are concerned about participating in not knowing where the information will end up. they do have concerns with sharing household information. >> but the county supervisor said not counting these people could cost california congressional seats. counting everyone might add seats, meaning more pull for california when fighting for federal funds. including congested if you're somebody in traffic, you want to make sure you're counted and you want to make sure every single neighbor is counted. the projects should have been paid for by the feds. >> the supervisor says a home owner living in the saratoga hills should be concerned about not counting those living in, say, a granny unit on the opposite side of the valley. it would affect them as well. >> we want to get back to our weather coverage. it is something you'll probably be talking a

the census bureau says that citizenship data will help the justice department force the voting rights act which protects minority voting rights. but they say that it's going to lead to an undercount that would impact everything from federal funding to political representation in congress. a coalition of 19 attorney generals are not challenging the question saying that it violates the constitution and federal statutes. and today an announcement that california is suing over. the state attorney general tweeted, the question it's not just a bad idea it is illegal. he's going to be joined by secretary of state at a news conference later this morning.>> they have asked this question in the past, -- have they asked this question in the past? >> well, they have asked some form of it has been more than 70 years.>> thinking. >>> let's take a look at whether in traffic. and, we have a lot going on the roads. >> yes. >> look we will start with that. and, the one thing that is clear be those skies. so here's a look at the tower. temperatures are feeling pretty cool. nice clear conditions in fact,

they tried to turn the census bureau into a massive community organizing experiment. people, more seats. and if you can count illegal aliens as part of that it's no illegal alien left behind. that's what we're really talking here. brian: more medicaid money here on top of that have to find out who is here. there are a lot of great people here that have green cards. a lot of people here on student visas? why don't we know them? categorize them? it's a difference. it matters. >> yes. that's exactly right. the other thing i want to point out, of course all of these special interest groups on the left who have used the census bureau as a jobs program and it's exploded. through the clinton administration, the bush administration, through obama are now locked out of that power. you will remember it was groups like acorn and the seiu that were the foot soldiers, administering these census questionnaires out there. they will not have that. that's why people like tom perez have turned into hysterical minis about it omni budget bill increased the budget to $3 billion. i think t

what you have going on is the census bureau is asking how many refrigerators and toilets. all kinds of personal questions. they should not be asking those questions. it's very legitimate to be saying are you a u.s. citizen. that's important. lou: anyone who thinks they are not involved in this should understand their state loses reputation often as a result because california which is not exactly a hotbed of reason and rationale has greater representation than is appropriate. let's turn to the wall funding. i know you voted against the spending bill, $1.3 trillion and in some considerable measure because there was no funding if for the president's wall. are you astounded that your speaker, the speaker of the house, paul ryan, is opposing the president on fundamental issues of his agenda upon which he was elected in 2016? >> it's mind blowing me that the american people sent a clear message. we want immigration to stop, illegal immigration to stop. we want a wall built. if you look back to president trump he was in the middle of the pack toward the end until he said let's b

census bureau would plan to protect the privacy of respondents. >> the real question is, are we asking that question because we want to separate people? are we asking that question because we want to intimidate people? is that question being asked as a political statement? and i think the answer to that is yes. >> reporter: california attorney general javier basara quickly filed a lawsuit against the department of commerce saying the citizenship question is unconstitutional, it would violate federal statutes. and with the private cities and counties of their fair share of billions of dollars in federal funds. >> medical services, for transportation, for food, and for those safety net services that we know many in our community really need. >> reporter: the attorney general wrote an op-ed piece about his lawsuit, we put a link to that on our web site and we put the announcement from the commerce department on our website as well. >>> new details just in to the abc7 newsroom. the orange county board of supervisors has voted to join the federal lawsuit against california's sanctuary laws.

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also wanted to ask you about the census bureau saying that older adults will outnumber children in 2035t that have big impacts on the federal programs that provide healthcare and retirement programs. what will happen to social security when that ratio changes? >> this is a great question. you have fewer people contributing to social security, having to sustain that program. let me tell you right now, the trust fund does not sustain all of the payments coming out of it unless you roll back interest to it. we're already behind the eight ball. we have been behind the eight ball since 2012. the whole program is set to go broke by 2034. the idea here that they would convert to paying benefits out of general revenue would mean that they would only cover about 3/4 of people's social security payments. big changes would have to be made then. you know as well as i do that there's no case for change in washington. they don't want to make the hard decisions. some of the proposals actually on the table include either reducing benefits or increasing taxes. nobody likes any of that. >> dana: that's t

according to the census bureau, once we hit 2035 people over the age of 65 will outnumber children.illis in the newsroom. how does that weave into walles and the retirement income today? >> this program, social security, you're describing, it already in trouble. already the outgo in that program what they're paying out to current social security recipients, is not matched by income when you take out interest. the program is already under duress and we expect the program to go broke in 2034. and what that will mean is they have to pay social security benefits out of the general treasury funds, right? they figure they can only make three quarters of the payments if people will be expecting, so you won't get a full social security payment or paycheck. fact that this rampup in the number of people who are not working with people in retirement requiring social security payments puts a lot of pressure on the program as you know. you know, i got to tell you, we look at these numbers over and over again and the solutions that are being offered out there, they're not going to be palatable to

running really large chunks of the government-- you know, the secretary of interior, the head of the census bureau-- you know, the secretary of the army. >> stephen: how many have been appointed so far? >> there are only about 250 in which you actually have someone who has been selected by the president and confirmed by the senate. >> stephen: so about 400 of these really important position unfilled. >> correct. >> stephen: now, do you see the government as half empty or half full? ( laughter ). >> i see it as -- >> stephen: do you want to take a moment to think about that? >> no, i don't need a moment. >> stephen: an optimist sees the government as half full. a pessimist as half empty, and an anarchist says why is there a glass? that is just people trying to control our water. >> a real optimist would say -- >> stephen: putting fluoride in it. >> it's good for your teeth. >> stephen: oh, is it? that's a government plot. >> i'm not sure about that last point. >> stephen: how many of these job vacancies are in the deep state? >> no such thing as a deep state. >> stephen: none of those positions are

he writes -- >> i don't know how it's illegal for a federal agency like the census bureau to ask questions. >> now the center for immigration studies notes that questions about citizenship have long been included in the american community survey, which is conducted every year on 3.5 million americans in the american households, about 15% of the nation. only 1.2% refused to share citizenship information on the survey and it's unclear if that is for fear or decline in civic mindedness. the center notes that the decline and participation began long before the trump presidency. that's not going to do anything to diminish the fight, which is brewing as we speak, eric. >> thanks, doug. in a few moments we'll talk to judge andrew napolitano whether is good or bad. julie? >> russia threatens to retaliate after president trump joins more than 20 countries in kicking out russian diplomats against the poisoning of a spy and his daughter in great britain. >> as president trump likes to say, he doesn't like to telegraph his punches. we think the retaliation that would come from russia would be inapt. t

of subject, but relat in ay because it's administration policy, david, as we learned from the census bureauom th administration, the trump administration, that what the census folks are going to do in 2020 is add a question about pele's citizenship, raising all kinds of questions about whether this is going toe a deterrent to people participating who are living here without all the proper documents. >> in normal ties, frankly, doesn't strike me as an odd question to ask, are you a citizen, and historically the census has asked that question.e but intmosphere of fear that surrounds immigration these days, with i.c.e. behaving as they are andth the administration really cireatening in some situations to kick tizens or noncitizens out, what you're doing is this e comes at th of that climate and, give that climate, asking th question, making this policy shift now can only be interpreted as a way to get people to not answer the question. there is an important shift to political power because money goes to -- depends on how many people you represent in each jurisdiction, federal money follows the

be a new question on the 2020 census according to the commerce department, which oversees the census bureau. the addition of this question has caused widespread condemnation by a group of attorneys general and immigrant rights advocates, who say the question will deter immigrants from participating in the census. california attorney general xavier becerra said monday he'll sue the trump administration over the census question, saying -- "including a citizenship question on the 2020 census is not just a bad idea -- it is illegal." this is reporter ari berman, speaking on democracy now! about that question of citizenship. >> s sounds like the simple question, but the experts i talked to said it will destroy anand sabotatage the entire sens that given the climate o of fear with thehe trump administration, nonobody, particularly immigrant groups, cicitizens and noncitizens, want to answer the question is there a citizen for fear o of how it will bebe usedy the trump adadministration. if it is on the senses, it will massively depressed responses among immigrant groups that will lead to fewer sea