and joining us now, lieutenant colonel tony schaeffer, senior fellow at the center for advanced defense studiesay. this is the deal, we went into libya for the so-called reason of humanitarian reasons because we wanted to prevent gadhafi from killing his own people and here we have a situation, not only killing his own people, his government is involved in tour touring kids and having them delivered to their families and this is hugely bad and our own ambassador pulled out because of violence against him and, he's calling president obama's bluff and, the bottom line is, we have train other arab countries in 21st century armies and, military force, i'm not saying, is the solution but we shouldn't be going into settle this, the guy is bad and i'm not saying we should cause regime change and he's killing his own people and if the arabs are concerned they should help resolve this, not us. >> dave: he's murdered thousands of people, his regime, not him, thousands of people in the streets and why in your opinion are we staying out? >> he's calling or bluff and we can't go in and are dealing with afgh