the bruges group also in london we have caro new he is chief executive officer at the center for european policy studies and in minneapolis we cross to clare hill she's professor at the university of minnesota law school or i folks this is cross talk that means you can jump in anytime you want all right robert if i could go to you first and you know we can talk about the financial nuances about this i think everybody that's been following the story knows basically the big numbers involved but you know there is we i thought last week everything had been decided i thought everything was going to be done you know as i recall is a marco they had decided everything decided to fate of three hundred million people and now we find out well not really and even the national governments they're not particularly sure what they want to do the french are just worried about their triple a rating and what's going on in greece now well maybe by the time this program airs we'll have a different scenario playing out there i hope point is it's a political fiasco more than anything else right now. well yes it is it's a poli