the burning of ships, er, ships after someone landed on the shore, yes, yes, of course , it is interesting. thank you, maksym maksym palamarchuk head of the center for foreign policy studies of the national institute of strategic studies, author of the book naval power and its limits yes well, we will continue to monitor this extremely important story because, well, they exploded, they blew up , more precisely, two strategic lawns that russia invested billions of bucks in, there were huge negotiation negotiations and so on and then on some happy night, so to speak, it happened that you put them out of order. of course , now russia is trying to shift all the responsibility to someone, well, to us, that is, to everything that happens badly in the world they are trying, so to speak, to stick our responsibility, this is delusional, of course, but the key story here is, so to speak, why right now ? maybe they need to be extremely careful with that . yes, if they try to apply a similar practice, it can obviously work in some countries in the world, that is, in the family of ukraine, they they will never convince the united states and even in europe, no, but in some distant countries, you know, in bangladesh, well, ukraine,

for the results of a normal, full-fledged investigation, an independent investigation, which is important, and responsible european politicians are calling for this. we will talk with maksym palamarchuk , head of the center for foreign policy studies of the national institute of strategic studiesf the book naval copper and its borders we congratulate you maxim and glory to ukraine yes we see you but we do not hear p maxim can you try again good day can you hear me o super super radio welcome you live on the espresso tv channel so well, let's start with what on your opinion has come to pass, so to speak, with nord stream one and nord stream two, russia has begun to disperse too actively, so to speak, in quotation marks, the ukrainian version, we understand that they are ready to dump anything on us. it is unlikely that anyone will believe them. but in any case, why are they so they were silent for a long time and were preparing for their last piece of information