center for military legal research, thank you very much. oleksandr, as far as i am informed, pavlo klimkin, diplomat, minister of foreign affairs of ukraine from, joins us, thank you, mr. pavle, thank you, mr. minister, for finding time for us on friday evening, not everyone finds time on friday evening, congratulations, please tell me, what is the trend, the defeat of the anti-european...' well, conditionally , the anti-european forces in poland or the victory of the anti-european forces in slovakia, or could it be something like this: the urbanization of eastern europe, central eastern europe, is this a trend, or is it like this , well, these are the exceptions of today, but tomorrow everything will be fine and will be again, as they said in the soviet union, friendship is chewing gum, well, that is, either everything is great, or everything is lost, betrayal or victory, yes, yes, yes, yes, in fact, as in that bearded joke, neither one nor the other, it’s them, you know, as in the east, as in yin, they are afraid, i actually see authoritarian tendencies now, well, we all know the hurshchyna, slovakia has already been discussed, there is nowh