this is for us first: ihor samovoloz, director of the center for middle eastern studies, and valery klochok , e.e., head of the center for public analytics tower, gentlemen, i congratulate you. well, i will say right away that our conversation is completely free, so if in the process you need to say something or comment , please don't wait for me, say stay, interrupt, and so on . this way, the conversation turns out to be lively and interesting for the audience , so from august of last year, chess where they flew over ukraine. as far as i understand, on september 12 , 2022, near kupyansk , kharkiv oblast, the ukrainian armed forces still shot down the first uh, the first first path, it was called geranium-2, but when we looked at the markings we understood what it was and did not even need to look at the markings because the intelligence data on the supply of weapons by iran to russia came from the partners of ukraine long before this day and precisely after it appeared in the airspace of the general public eh hmm to the general public in ukraine, or rather to the general public in general, it became known in ukraine that shahedi iranian