but thanks for having me tom i just want to correct you upfront it's an easy mistake to make actually work for the center for public integrity center for public integrity thank you very much mike where does your interest in exposing corporate corruption and greed come from and what attracts you to this field of reporting. right you know as a reporter i try not to come into things with sort of big picture ideas or with an ideology of what's happening. you know i was just reporting on. what was going on at individual lenders individual mortgage companies individual financial institutions and you know as i was doing that i came to see that one of the things one of the questions that maybe at first not consciously but then later consciously but it was really asking is how do you in a large institution how do you get thousands of people who may be spread out branches all over the country even all over the world how do you get them to tell a lot to tell lies to fuel your business model. either either tell lies or sort of accept the party and ignore or condone these lies how does this happen so that's kind of been the focus of my work over the last few years