first of all needed to restore their leadership, restore the confidence of the states of central and eastern europe that the european union is one and berlin and paris are not will block some decisions when this decision will concern the interests of the central-eastern european states, that's exactly why i assume that scholtz and macron came after a trip to romania, that's exactly why they the president of romania klaus iohannis joined. by the way, this is also a very symbolic visit, because the visit of gannis was also postponed in 2017. only now did it take place to show that central and eastern europe in the person of president iohannis and western europe in the person of scholz draga and macron are the only ones support ukraine, which means that they support the eastern european policy of the european union in general, and here we can only expect full solidarity and support, an important element, in my opinion, is also what is on the eve during the visit, while in the romanian constance , president macron made very strong statements with strong messengers, saying that these messages should be

in finland and finally nato announced the buildup of military infrastructure in europe, primarily in central and eastern a new package of e-assistance to ukraine, and even today there was a very important breakthrough in terms of international recognition of the donetsk and lugansk people's republics on the recognition of their independence and sovereignty, the ministry of foreign affairs of the syrian arab republic announced today, but we will now start with the caspian summit, and today vladimir putin did the following statement on the prospects for energy cooperation and logistics development of the caspian region, listen to the president. among the key tasks of the five, we certainly consider further building up regional trade and investment ties, deepening, mutually beneficial industrial and high-tech cooperation, i note that the volume of russian trade with the caspian countries is constantly growing, so in 2021, trade turnover increased by more than a third, the five have great opportunities for interaction in the field energy companies are already implementing agreements on the joint exploitatio

is nato's intention to make a significant build-up of the armed forces in the countries of central eastern europes, yes, but there is constant talk that the founding act, russia, nato is dead. and that no restrictions that the fundamental act imposed on the scale of the deployment of nato military infrastructure in the countries of central eastern europe are no longer in effect, yes, and, accordingly, nato can deploy anything, yes, and in terms of the e-e of the conventional armed forces destination. and it is even said that there are no longer any restrictions in the field of nuclear weapons, because, again, a fundamental act. uh, russia nato uh, honey, this is a rather alarming situation. we will discuss it right after the short advertisement. you have to leave , you can go to that building. i have found myself in difficult situations many times, but this time in ukraine everything was much more serious. if i fell into the hands of the ukrainian fascists, i don't even know what they would have done to me, maybe they would have tortured me. or maybe they would have killed him two weeks ago. i fo

be able to protect the countries of the central east in europe, this is a big doubt of the british military in that the vast majority of countries in central eastern on their own. this is a very important point, because really, if you evaluate the military potential, only poland is now able to defend itself against russia, and all other countries. for them, the calculation, taking into account the experience of the ukrainian army in the ukrainian window, for them, the experience shows that they will be able to last a week at their best. moreover, germany itself, let's say. in the best condition, italy is quite weak about france. well, uh, but for sure, what are the goals of uh, why are the positions of the scumbag macron dear, why are they so restrained, because they believe that even under the worst conditions, putin will only go to their borders , that is, to uh, for the capture of those territories that were in brackets under stalin , that is, during stalin's time, it is no coincidence that putin has repeatedly identified himself and compared himself with peter the first, then with stalin, and he cares a lot for him and he want to be so similar

great doubt of the british that the british will be able to protect the countries of the central in eastern europe doubt of the british military that the vast majority of the countries of central and eastern europe will be able to resist russia on their own. this is a very important point, because really, if you evaluate the military potential, only poland is now able to defend itself against russia, all other countries, for them, the calculation, taking into account the experience of the ukrainian army, the ukrainian window for them, experience shows that they can last a week at the most , and even more so, germany itself, let's say now it is in the best condition italy is quite weak about france well eh, but surely what are the goals of eh, why are the positions of the shulka macron dear, why are they so restrained because they believe that even under the worst conditions, putin will go only to their borders, that is, to eh actually, those territories that were in quotation marks under stalin , that is, during stalin's time, it's no coincidence that putin has repeatedly identified himself and co

so the eastern europe central eastern europe was always divided by these big empires and and the whole war started out with the belief that monarchies and his empires and the colonial empires will be strengthened by the end of the war and they will live on and nobody expected that in fact, not one single nation will be achieving any of its goal that was set before the start of the war. especially nobody expected that all of the empires will be dissembling and and falling apart. it started with the russian empire and and ended with the austro-hungarian empire and on the ashes of these empires completely new states were created. or or nations reborn who used to be sovereign nations centuries earlier like the polls but lost their severity to the russian empire and so yes it it went through big changes very similar to the middle east very similar and the give the centennial of the war. a different kind of flavor a different kind of importance than it may have had for those in the west or certainly for the united states, you know, it's important to realize when i look out at all these young

replacing the armaments of the front house transferred to the kiev regime by the countries of central eastern europe, berlin uh is tied. hmm, it simply tightly ties these states to the german military-industrial complex. she is such a leader in the supply of weapons. kiev still remains the united states of america since the end of february, the volume of military assistance has exceeded three and eight billion dollars for further support. kiev approved almost 40 billion more, of which more than 23 billion directly for military needs. i would like to remind you that it was precisely such actions of the west that turned ukraine into a military training ground against russia and became one of the reasons for the start of a special war of the operation of the russian armed forces, and it was enough and we did not talk about the prerequisites and reasons for the tasks and so on, but in this case, i'm emphasizing one that has become a compound. the whole complex and i will emphasize again. that the special war operation will continue until all its goals, as stated by the russian leadership, include the de

estonia to bulgaria will already be put into effect, that is, on the whole of this volume, the central eastern europethose former new nato members will be increased the infrastructure will be greatly strengthened in this eastern flank. by the way, mr. pansky very aptly said that these countries of the eastern flank somehow understand ukraine best and support its membership and says that russia looks at the same lithuania differently than we say that if ukraine and others members of the european union and the western civilized community look at the sheet that is probably an independent state from russia, look at the soviet republic, look at the countries of central and eastern europe and even the former communist bloc as some kind of sphere of influence of its influence, that is, a completely different philosophy. well, in conclusion, i will also say that discovarians also broke down these days during themselves, that is also to go for what, for example, boris johnson, the british tournament about what is not, it is not necessary for ukraine to somehow clean for the sake of peace, for the sake of some

foreign policy, then what is said in this russian doctrine that yes, russia should take over central eastern europee should give it to germany because, uh, with the catholic world , someone has to control it, this catholic light, germany will be such a guardian, but with a clear projection on moscow and not on washington grigory e. this child is also certain in a certain sense, she also er provokes germany to occupy a central and political role in europe, it cannot be said that such thoughts are er dominant in the german political community, but they are also, you know, raising the ambition of hryhoriyu. i am very grateful to you because this is a very important clarification hryhoriyu perepelitsa , conflict expert, director of the institute of foreign policy studies, professor of kyiv of the national university was in touch with us only news together we are strong will support the ukrainian army with money scan the code so the marathon continues only news and now we are in direct contact ruslan strilets, minister of environmental protection and natural resources

the same countries of central eastern europe e, they refused, as it were, from the soviet heritage. yes , and a number of productions were, and the liquidation went bankrupt on or somehow transformed. there, the technological chains in czechoslovakia were broken, so let's say we hope that we are serious. they will produce tanks, there is a t-72 somewhere for the ukrainians. no, i was very smiled at this story that the greeks decided, so to speak, there, given that these weapons came to greece in the ninety-fourth ninety-third year from the gdr that is, to all of them for more than 30 years there were no spare parts for them, so from this large number there are several dozen. there are one and a half hundred, i think, at best, 20 pieces can be collected. so they crumble with a high degree, so it’s not always when you hear some beautiful phrase. this means that all these e, all these units will appear there, say, within two weeks on the battlefield. but now they are talking about the fact that if ukraine is supplied with the most modern weapons, the russians will seize it and develop

not start the power plant, she did not work there for a single day, but the countries of eastern europe and centralrope they have a sufficiently large interest in nuclear energy, now they are using crime and are not going to give it up. there was one for the 33rd year. the fact is that the construction of nuclear power units is a long process, that is, when it comes to non- conservation or there is a launch before which germany stopped three fleas on january 1 of this year, they can be it would be launched if necessary, but well, for a very long time , all these decisions were considered, coal was taken, of course, today’s e-e does not correspond to the spirit of today, but if we are talking about increasing attention to coal for a year or two, it does not particularly affect the climate agenda of the european union but it’s somewhere easier to get through the period of russian blackmail, two more important steps are still important, one is the one that has been talked about for a long time, lowering the standards of the temperature in the summer, this is for air conditioning and standards the maxi

priorities, perhaps not thinking about how to put thousands of troops back into europe and now moving them to central and eastern europe. so nathan, looking really very much to show up its own territory, but ukrainian, president of all of them is lensky will be addressing the nato summit via the video link tomorrow. how much pressure is nato on the to help you crime all? it's under tremendous pressure because this is seen in many ways as the 1st theater . if ukraine goes badly, if russia is able to win what it once or more than the bare minimum of what it wants in ukraine, russia, we'll see this as a green light to keep going. many people see the fact that the, the watch and community nato europe didn't respond adequately to rush, grabbing 20 percent of georgia territory in 2008. that there was not enough of response to 2014 and rush of taking crimea, and then proxies taking the don't boss o territory is in that, that these were considered agree lights to moscow to keep it, to get to the west from the west, from us to keep going to keep making more territory, which is how we comes to such an egregious war. in 20

these countries of central and eastern europe are saying, well, we warned you. we said it is good forpport ukraine in nato and in general politically still historicism sweden and finland will soon become already the 31st and 32nd member of nato, it is important to be in front of all the dignity of europe. the entire baltic sea will actually be under the control of the north atlantic alliance. it is also important that finland becomes a member of nato without a joint venture without an action plan regarding membership. and that the door thereby emphasized the alliance for other countries . will continue to be open, it is important for ukraine, it is also important that nato is very attractive, the alliance remains such a magnet that attracts others. this is important because even recently, when donald trump was the president of the united states, he talked about the fact that it is too outdated, it is ineffective, it is not needed emanuel macron, the president of france spoke about the fact that there is some kind of brain disease in nato in general , some kind of crisis, that’s all al

we are talking about the fact that ukraine is currently the leader in this central-eastern europe andtalking about the fact that today we are protecting all of europe from russia's new aggression . the russian empire is falling apart, it will fall apart, it is a huge corpse lying from europe to the bering strait, we are talking about the fact that ukrainians became what stopped the mongols in the 13th tape and today stops the new ideology of racism. therefore, the history and fate of the entire european civilization depends on what will happen in ukraine. sell congratulations. azov residents immediately listen to this broadcast nearby. thank you, of course , antoine. we also thank you very much for this inclusion and, as always, for such a high intellectual conversation. so, antoine was the guest of our studio. rzhakovsky, a well-known religious scholar, as well as a cultural expert and oleksandr alfiora, a historian, spoke about european ties, historical ties, cultural ties of ukraine, thank you and we are moving on. however, how two countries that have chosen different paths of deve

only its leaders are the united states and great britain, as well as several countries of central eastern europe as poland, the czech republic, and slovakia. well , the baltic countries act on time and well , they act critically, and let's say germany is certain balances to a certain extent and france also balances, that's exactly what i'm saying about it, that i understood your approach and your conclusion, you repeatedly said that we count on foreign aid. precisely because our own capabilities are very limited , the question arises whether there is any room at all for the ukrainian defense industry in the current situation of lend-lease mass supply of foreign weapons, is there a niche where our defense industry can develop and exist at all, this is a very timely and important question. i am convinced that uh, ukraine should develop its industry in parallel, especially since uh, there are opportunities for uh , such quick, operational investment of resources and uh, even those things, those weapons that are not accepted for service in the armed forces of ukraine. well, i mentioned the srs from

policy of strengthening the capacity of the countries of the eastern flank, that is, the central-eastern europetic states until they took the first blow and held out until the big nato member countries could send them reinforcements . well illustrates the situation, mr. zoftenko, i would like to ask you to answer the last question briefly. here are the prices . it informs that certain officials in the white house may already lose confidence that ukraine will be able to win back all the territories that russia captured after february 24, but they will not stop continuing . to support ukraine and put pressure on russia and then who can imagine the end of the war in ukraine? well, i think that the information announced by the sinn is uh information exclusively uh about some uh working discussions we should first of all to be guided by the official position of the white house and the u.s. political and security institutions. and this position is actually approved by the statements of american leaders , it is also approved by the results of the g7 meeting, and most likely this position will also be

finland and sweden, and of course then we should not waste time because we wasted it when central eastern europe the bloc with poland, then it was definitely interesting on the stage. well, at least in most of our citizens, they believed that we are brothers with the russians and we don't have a threat from the east. i think that this is destruction of ukrainian cities by constant rocket attacks, this illusion has already been dispelled by at least 80% of ukrainians, i think that even after the eighth year of the war and 112 days of such a large-scale war, we will also have unconscious ones, but we have to prepare for this and actually take finland as an example from the point of view how it was preparing for this membership, they took part in various formats of training and regional cooperation, er, it means everything possible to be useful to nato, they did it, they fully mutually compatible, i.e. tomorrow, when they are accepted, they simply put on the nato cipher and they are already ready in all technical, tactical , and strategic parameters to be part of this alliance, and we have to take

republic that can return its sphere of influence, also look at the former warsaw pact in central-eastern europe once in the sphere of influence of the ussr, here it looks at some of its own territory where it has a sphere of influence. that is, it was such a message in the neighboring zelenskyi said that, in principle, well, about these shellings of ukrainian territory, the prostitutes said that a rocket from kyiv to a traveler is the distance even than the russian rocket launchers of ukraine drink, that is, if today is getting russia with this missile terrorism, which has been talked about recently in the last days of modern shelling, eh, in the future, russian missiles can reach the territory of nato countries . to the kyiv metro that they are open as if they are coming, that they are closing and you have to pay something there, ukraine has already paid a big price, says zelensky, but what price can ukraine pay for the door to nato to be open to others decisions are also er strengthening of the eastern flank very strongly a-a nato will be more than 300,000 rapid reaction forces will be create

europe's largest herbivores. christoph: these fagaras mountains here in the romanian carpathians are the largest contiguous and intact natural area we have in central and easterns reason, we believe this has the potential of becoming the yellowstone of europe. reporter: a foundation set up by christoph and barbara promberger has been progressively buying up and leasing land in the fagaras mountains. the carpathia project is set to cover 2000 square kilometers of land. but what's a national park without wildlife? 75 bison now have been reintroduced to this same area that they used to roam 200 years ago. christoph: we always tend to say that we want to create something great. but it costs a lot of money, and a whole lot of building and other activities. but we don't need that. when we talk about nature, the best thing we can do is fix what we broke and then leave it alone. reporter: but you are actually intervening by releasing wild animals, for example. so you're intentionally altering what's here. barbara: what we're doing is bringing back the animals, or the species, that actually belong in this system. reporter: the bison are shy, but their tracks are everyw

including the countries, mainly the countries of central eastern europe, we then said that such an expansion, and it turned out, i would like to clarify just one moment how you can comment on the idea of ​​the summit participants to create some kind of new political european community . well that's an idea the participants are the idea of ​​the president of france, mr macron, and who threw it into uh, political discourse for quite a long time, anyway, uh, all uh, ending soon for half a year, and there is a french presidency of the council, well, it passed under the blue of this idea here, and to the french and personally to the macron and e member of the government. and france had to explain what they had in mind and somehow try to dispel the suspicions of potential candidates, including, by the way, also ukraine. what are they trying to do? as they say, a present some ersatz instead of membership. i do not rule out that some people continue to have such fears . but in any case, and when this happens, uh, in, as it were, in conjunction with reformatting plans, and according to some of the ra

they will talk about both helping ukraine and strengthening the eastern flank of their bloc, nine countries of central and eastern europe called the alliance is worried about russia's aggression. in the meantime, bbc correspondents have seen nato videos showing dangerous incidents when russian military planes approached the region close to planes in nato says that this is the biggest maneuver since the end of the cold war. 50 planes are testing the air defense of the allies in eastern europe. the past always makes itself felt. the main threat remains russia. the czech pilot michal danik is playing his role . he is ready for filming and it looks like a frame from a movie. top -gang, but the matter is serious, this training suddenly turned into a real mission, an unknown plane approached nato airspace, and now the planes that intercepted it are returning here, which country was it with, it was not a military one nato plane russians don't ask later nato declassified the incident for the bbc it was a russian plane video taken from the cockpit of the czech pilot shows how close he had to approach the russian plane to restrai

identity of ukraine, it means that they want to do to you what they did to the countries of central and eastern europe after the revolution or after the second world war liquidation of the elites, destruction of the culture of destruction and otherness, then management with a russified demographic population devoid of leaders, believes that this is their plan, but it has already failed, he tells you the rest. i think it is very strange that putin did not draw any conclusions from the 14th year, because in the fall of that time they already tried to do this with the help of those points. you remember that in mykolaiv, in kharap and odesa, they wanted to take control on the same mistake, arguing that a supposedly russian- speaking ukrainian is a russian and wants to live under the leadership of putin but this is an absurd theory, please, um, try to tell an irishman that he is english and that ireland should be ruled by london again. continue. try to say something similar to americans who also speak english, because it is ultimately absurd. i believe that identification in ukraine today not only ethnic ,

central and eastern england. with temperatures into the low 20s, it has felt pleasantly warm, as well. but not as warm as the weather that we have across central and eastern europe0s, even, across the south of italy. those high temperatures have built up because of this ridge in the jet stream — that not only allows the weather to get very hot at this time of the year, but it also prevents weather systems from moving eastwards. and unfortunately for us, we're underneath this trough that encourages an area of low pressure to form — here it is — and it'll be with you for the rest of this week bringing rain or showers. so, it is a very unsettled looking weather picture for the next few days. 0vernight tonight, a band of rain that's been pushing eastwards over recent hours will continue to move from wales across into eastern england, central and eastern areas of scotland, as well. behind that, across western portions, we'll see a few showers, and temperatures for the most part staying into double figures — so a mild start to the day on wednesday. wednesday, we start off with the same band of rain, quite heavy for eastern scotland, but moving out of the way. it'll be

between the countries of the eastern flank of the eu and nato and ukraine, i should note that the three seas initiative includes 12 countries of the central and eastern europe, which has access to the baltic, adriatic and black seas, ukrainian grain cannot be exported to the baltic sea through the territory of the belarusians because the railway infrastructure has been restored on the ukrainian-belarusian border, lukashenko and putin can then use it to attack ukraine. this statement was made by the president of lithuania gitanas na useda at a meeting with journalists the day before. after the grain, russian military equipment can go in one direction to the other, i.e. to ukraine alternatives i hope they will listen to his words. russia did not just attack one country, it attacked everything that the civilized world built after the end of the second world war, so the president of the european council, charles michel, made a statement during a speech at a meeting of the united nations security council, but according to him, this did not shake the commitment of the european union to the principles of the united nations. the european union will continue to supp

europe's largest herbivores. here i gotcha baggage here these far garage mountains here in the romanian co pay the ants are the largest contiguous and intact natural area. we have in central, in eastern europe for this reason. we believe this has the potential of becoming the yellowstone of europe. we've gotten a foundation set up by christophe and barbara pom bagger has been progressively buying up and leasing land in the far garage mountains. the carpathia project is set to cover 2000 square kilometers of land. but what's a national park with wildlife 75 bison? have now been re introduced to the same area that the used to room 200 years ago. you can you name of it's, we always tend to say that we want to create something great. but it costs a lot of money and a whole lot of building and other activities going to need, but we don't need that. and then when we talk about nature, the best thing we can do is fix what we broke and then leave it alone for you guys don't want, you are actually intervening by releasing wild animals for example, who gets you that? so you're intentionally altering what's here and what we're doing is bringing back the animals, all the species that actually be

active military support, both in relation to ukraine and the transfer of nato units to central and eastern europeussia. that they won't be able to come up with, they won't be able to coordinate them. quickly the situation changes so radically that european leaders, and not only european as a whole, many western leaders do not seem to be able to keep up with this agenda, with this situation , with greed and with the war. these bills were signed for a beer, and i leave now they come to discuss and argue with the participation of experts, including in the open , behind closed doors, and so on, and the matter is obvious it's about the fact that the natural west is not ready. well, it's about what's going on now , despite the fact that the war of russian aggression has been going on for 4 months, and the development of the position continues. it is said that well, i don't know to what extent it can really be taken seriously as an intention. well, i would like to ask you to comment . oil that is exported from russia, this is how much, first of all, this step can be painful for russia, and how would you

are the baltic countries, this is lithuania, latvia, estonia, this is the changes in east central and eastern europe, this is poland , this is the czech republic - this is the scandinavian countries that even they changed their geopolitics, they left neutral status, applied for nato membership, that is, finland and sweden, that is, the behavior of norway and denmark. for ukraine, but what is happening in ukraine is just, well, things in your opinion, if they had done it in the 14th year, well, instead of the deep concern that we saw then from everywhere, yes, deeply worried, deeply worried, if all this had happened in the 14th year, when russia's war against ukraine really began at that time in the donbass in crimea. well, how could it? it's clear that we're fantasizing now, but how could it , in your opinion, affect what we have now? you know, it's very important to understand that what to remember that foreign policy is a reflection of internal policy in ukraine and remember and what was inside ukraine that lived in ukraine myths and stereotypes here, for example, is one of the myths of stereotype

it is from such a geopolitical union, one can say that it would unite the countries of central and eastern europe. and that's because they are united by history and the geopolitical situation itself and many other things . including an ideological community , such as uh, professing christianity, christian traditions, uh, and other things, mentally, we are much closer to each other, but already in warsaw there, uh, the direction of this primorye actually changed somewhat, and it gained such an economic 50 investment projects have already been confirmed , and since then it has looked like a sub-regional economic association, but today the situation has changed dramatically because it is connected with the threat from russia war, and therefore security issues and defense issues come to the fore today, at least definitely that those first congresses, uh, that's how they train, they laid down one of the principles that uh, hmm, these participants in this process of the triumvirate should be only the countries of the european union or the countries of nato , and this already excluded, unfortunately, th

i think probably the focus today is on the ones outperforming, particularly in central and eastern europehungarian central bank out what they rate hike today, delivering a great hike to close that gap between the two. the caught market on the hop, and weirdly eastern european equity markets are doing quite well on the back of that hungry story. generally what we have seen is energy stocks are performing. both are still positive territory, but not by as much as we are seeing in london. we will hear what sebastian raedler said earlier on about that u.k. underperformance. let's turn our attention to the stoxx 600. higher this morning, then a reasonably tight race. we rolled it over over the past couple of hours. data from the consumer out of the state probably a factor, but we are still higher now. a relatively tight range out of the european equities at session thus far. let's talk about the sector story. energy has done relatively well. it is the picture we have seen throughout most of the day. energy up by 4.9%. a brutal week last week, though. till it is, basic resources tracking relativ

but i would say that what really clinched it for many people are countries in central and eastern europe, especially, was the february 4th documents signed in beijing in the run up to the olympics, where president putin and she, jim pink, signed an agreement to say or statement with many points for one of the key points was that they both. ready joined together to push back on nato. so i think that sent a red light to many countries. and we've seen a lot of cooperation with russia and china to those who have been paying attention . it's been taking place for quite a long time. there have been 3 recent documents in the last few years that they signed together. plus we've seen russia, china naval operations or exercises in the mediterranean, in the baltics, so they've been cooperating and sending signals to your own. okay, andrew, i'm in the, the, the, the alliance has been saying unequivocally that the consider shiners global ambitions as a threat to the international liberal architecture. how is this reverberating across china? well, this is of course nothing new as far as the united sta

the idea of ​​this project is to stimulate the economic development of the countries of central and eastern europemonious partnership in the region between the adriatic, baltic and black seas. well, in general, primorye is a kind of geopolitical project that rests on three pillars. i would say that it is firstly, energy, secondly, infrastructure , thirdly, the cif situation. actually, at the beginning of this week, another summit of the three seas initiative was held in riga, in which, in addition to the leaders of the three seas, representatives of other countries took part, for example, the united states of america, germany, japan, and ukraine was also presented for the first time. actually , what are the next ones? you will already be in another position, she is no longer just an observer or an invited guest, but actually partners who are approaching integration with this an interesting project, i.e. and what does it mean without participation in this tremor? we simply cannot be a candidate for eu membership there or something. in general, the initiative of the three dimensions is not connected

leaders of the countries of the bucharest nine, which unites the member states nato of central and eastern europe met in romania to discuss the challenges faced by the alliance on the eastern flank. during the meeting , the president of lithuania and called himself declared that nato should consider russia as a long-term threat to the democratic world because it has violated too many taboos and red lines in the meantime another congress of the copenhagen summit for democracy is underway in denmark. in his virtual speech at the event, volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, called on the european union to take a historic step and to prove that the ukrainian people belong to the european family, so the first thing is to finally remove the gray area that so tempts the russian state. it is necessary to move from words that ukraine is part of the european family to actions. that the words about the belonging of the ukrainian people to the european family are not just words. since june 23, the statement of european representatives gives reason to believe that the european union may agree to gran

it was their national independence and that's a story for people across eastern and central europe and that's a story that will take us to ukraine. but of course ukraine is you can't put it in the category of of prosperous prosperous successful countries and at the moment because it's a somewhat different story, but that's where they wish to go. that's right. ukraine is always held special place in this. equation another part of that optimism was that maybe the era of block politics block strategy would come to an end. we have another dividing line in europe again, ukraine happens to be on the wrong side of it. although i mean for all intents and purposes they they're getting article 5 protection in a way we can get back to the present moment in a little bit but i mean was that an unrealistic expectation that the era of block politics would go away. well, i would urge as much precision as possible. so there was a hope for a new world for this broad cooperation that russia china the united states would all be integrated into some kind of collective system goes back to woodrow wilson and