central banks policy of itself can do to stimulate growth. this is a fiscal crisis. governments have taken money away from businesses and people by putting them into lockdown. the e.c.b.'sis really to facilitate here. that may require more action just to get confidence in the market and make sure they remain stable. it is down governments plain and simple whether the e.c.b. drives recovery. francine: are they doing enough for the country's most hit by covid-19 or are we going to see bailouts at the end or see certain countries needing a lot of external help? >> well, i think that the commission proposals, they are groundbreaking because of course it is moving away from the idea that you have got so many votes and therefore you get so much money. more to need-based grants. i think that is like an important precedent to be setting. and we shouldn't underestimate the power of that. once the precedent is set, it will become easier if money is needed in the future to go down this route again, i would argue. but yes, individual governments may face certain fiscal difficulties but we shouldn't panic about this. the debt levels that we're talking about are not that alarming. by

people and the majority of them haven't spoken to anybody at. and at such a vital piece because it's meant to be a central part of the government was ‘s plan to getent was 's plan to get back to normal. on monday in england, you will be able to go and buy something nonessential from a nonessential shop. as one of the big visible changes to the lockdown restrictions. in northern ireland, you probably on will not already done that. and wales and scotland, you will still be waiting. i suppose you could buy them from an essential shop. if they were there. 0r online. what's it gonna be like being inside shops was a let's find out with two retail experts. we got james, hello james. hi. and stylist extraordinaire. hello everyone! are you working with the government and the build—up to this big reef dale resolution? yes, i'm actually in a store right now. we been doing all the contact needed what they can expect to see, how they will move around. ithink expect to see, how they will move around. i think putting everyone's nerves at ease a little bit. the first time in three months, it's a bit odd. how will it work? what happens if you touch a t—shirt? bit