but again, this is live pictures and this is from cermak and michigan avenue, right near michigan avenue in chicago, and mccormick place is where they're holding the nato summit, and this is not that far away from mccormick place, so police are trying to push people west. they're saying, move west, move west, which is away from mccormick place. west would be away from the lake and further into the city. and if they were to go east, they would end up in the lake. north or south, if they were to go south, they would end up at mccormick place. so just to sort of give you an idea of where they are in the city. this is as peaceful as we have seen it as we've been watching these pictures over the last hour, so maybe a little bit longer here. you know these police officers are not taking any you-know-what off of these protestors. these protestors are angry. both sides have been standing their ground. they said we have the right to take to the street. we don't have the right to throw things at police officers. we saw buckets being thrown at police officers, we saw water bottles being thrown at p