if there is that rhetoric, it's certainlyly going both ways. i don't think healthcare reform has to mean dying sooner. i'm skeptical about the current cuts they need to see more of these costs. we think about what we are getting with our money. as long as they have a system where people are not baring a cost of the healthcare. no, we don't need to die sooner. host: i just want to ask you, if the numbers hold up going into 2010, how is that going to affect this administration or any other easy ability to try and get more people working and grow the job ranks? guest: it looks like the 30,000 foot level. we need to grow the economy. we have to get back more than 10 million jobs to catch up to where we are the second challenge is to reign in the short-term deficits. then we are left with these long term structure problems to a large degree created by the healthcare issues. there is some disagreement on how we ultimately face the healthcare issue. healthcare by it self is a fairly complex issue. you expect them all to be brain surgeons and financial

certainlyly, it seems to me there's a couldn't ra diction there. it seems both for economic policy and federal security, we have to reduce the capitol for abroad. host: a call from tulsa for inds independents. caller: politicians are unwilling to raise taxes. would they be more willing if it was called war tax? how are we going to recoup the inheritance tax we are losing right now. i for got the third one. host: we'll leave is it there. can you address the politicians and tax issues? guest: nobody really wants to cut spending either. when it comes to the long run keff sit problem, we have to do both, we have to take seriously the revenue side and build up revenue. we take a hard look at spending. on the revenue side, we have to take a look at the tax cuts. also have a serious reform about estate tax. i don't think anybody is proposing to back to 2000. on the spending side, you see in the various projections, some reduction in spending. there's a long term reduction affect. there's also the end of the wars in iraq and afghanistan and some cuts to sp

certainlyly, passports have been introduced. what we really need to do is have identification to make sure people are in fact who they say they are. host: to the phone lines. caller: good morning. it's not really to do with flying airports. i guess that's the real spot light today. i'm putting my family on an airport in another month for vacation. host: are you heading overseas? caller: no just flying domestically. always get a little nervous there. i little in a rural area. there's a lot of fertilizer producing and distribution centers where i live and trains and so on. what kind of -- or who oversees that? i could drive right up with a pickup truck and buy a couple hundred pounds of phosphates and deeze ill oil and do a number. and all of this paraanya and anti-sematis demnch is just like horse man ue. but answer the question about the phosphates. guest: that's a good point. we the government need to do a better job to coordinate the efforts. host: you moved on to a new commission with wartime contracting. what can you tell us

certainlyly in the medicare account. the capacity as a place we could constructively address >> extraordinarily limited to the commission in my opinion. sure if we could put in place some sort of brand new approach, or take some of the i hadias put forward and explode them across the country and leave a lot of them on the cutting room floor, then you could make progress but medicare is the big healthcare account soon to be followed by medicaid. >> what's your view? those elements in the bill, healthcare is delivered in the country. >> i have to say i don't know what that means. i think that the question i think on the table. really from one of the things the commission could do is a couple of things they are up against medicare the ability to resist the temptation it has to be implemented things like demonstrations in a high cost areas that doesn't block the important role. congresswoman? >> can i just jump in? >> go ahead. i'll ask you a question and you can answer anything you want there's been some really untrue thing