cesar vargas is the first illegal immigrant lawyer in the state of new york, and he joins us tonight.hanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. so this makes, i've got to say, i think normal people are a lot less sympathetic to so-called dreamers, the idea that you are in the country illegally and you are standing in the middle of an intersection preventing citizens from getting to work, you're getting basically violent demands in public when you're not even a citizen. do you see where maybe this is a counterproductive strategy and kind of offensive? >> regardless of whether you agree or not, they have a constitutional right to express their opinion. but to the point of -- >> tucker: no, actually, stop. you're a lawyer. they don't have a constitutional right to block me from getting to work in the middle of a public street. >> you may disagree with it, but this is about actually -- >> tucker: i'm just giving the facts. you don't have the right to do that. >> you absolutely do. >> tucker: then why were they arrested? >> absolutely, obviously they are doing the civil disob