-- where a cfc has already been issued. commissioner garcia: but remember that the doctor can go ask dbi to go out there and make sure that our conformed. mr. kornfield already stated that is available. for us to grant jurisdiction and take over the process when the process is already in place to me seems to be a waste of resources. vice president goh: if someone wants to make a continuance? president peterson: i think many of us -- that is ok. i think many of my concerns have been addressed already by my fellow commissioners. -- commissioner hwang: i think this is a difficult case. i am not sure what options we have. my inclination from a process standpoint is to deny the jurisdiction request, but i do think the comments from the public about issues that have been presented are compelling. and i think that the questions on the permit itself, with the absence of an opportunity to really review the plans also creates fundamental issues of fairness. i am not sure we can be in that position to address it. if there is another p

issued those but unfortunately for every job that was ever done site may say reroofing and give you a,cfc, but it does not say one family or two family, just describes the job and in the 1950s it was five years later that it said only for conditions in the building code. >> so if you -- this document is the key document for us to determine what is the legal use and

we have taken all sorts of safeguards to prevent that from helping but this treaty itself is a cfc builderthout the treaty there is no verification. trust but verify remains very important with our dealings with russia and other nuclear powers. >> so we are hearing from some republican moderates -- they're on the fence on this treaty. what do you think of the analysis, and is it principled in your view or are we just talking about politics here? >> i think there's perhaps some politics when you get involved when you get within a couple of months of an election. that's why senator john kerry and dick lugar are working together on this. i think we all ought to note that's a very positive development in partisan washington today, for two leaders to be working together. i know that senator mccain and senator leaven are working together on a number of items, including, perhaps, this. i hope senator mccain will end up voting for this. there is distrust going back to the cold war. russia has the same kind of distrust. what we have to understand is without this treaty, the distrust is going up bec