cgi federal? >> cgi is one. and cms of course is the manager of all contracts, can give you the most comprehensive answer. >> i thank all of you, mr. park, in case it isn't said again in this hearing. we believe that what you're doing today is important. i think what gao has said there wasn't a single point of contact that an expert in charge in a timely fashion that would be accountable and coordinate that if you will sleep on their floor if that's what it took before october 1st. so that's the big reason we're here today. i think that's where gao is making the point to all of us that the next time there's one of these, we need to have somebody, perhaps not of injure stature but as close as we can come in the months and years preceding it. we go to the gentleman from south carolina. >> mr. park, do you agree there's a difference between an innocent misstatement of a perceived fact and a deliberate attempt to deceive? >> yes. >> so do i. when did you first realize that you couldn't keep your health insurance eve

ams as you said. >> what is cgi's problems? >> well, i mean the problems with healthcare.gov glitches, you know, sending out wrong information and the system is built by this predecessor company of which many executives now work at cgi had similar problems for example this ams built a computer for the philadelphia school system and it wound up sitting paychecks to dead people, to dead employees. it put in a system for the defense logistics agency and wound up shipping military parts to the wrong vendors around the country because the system had wrong information which is somewhat similar to what he would seeing now. >> did cgi come in and buy ams and clean it up in 2004 and did it clean it up. >> that's what they say. we looked into cgi's recent history as well. they have been better. they haven't had as many problems as that period. they still have had some problems as well. in fact another subsidiary of cgi which grew out of this ams was primary builder of three of the state exchanges in hawaii, colorado and investment those

they really need to get rid of her, clean house, get rid of cgi. i have been reading up on cgi, wow, are they lost. they are completely -- good luck. no chance. >> i had a dream about sebelius. she was here in a floral pant suit and i thought she was the queen of england. >> on that note.

now, in august, gci told cms in the report -- >> cgi -- >> i am sorry, cgi, thank you.on august 9 that there was not enough time to conduct adequate performance testing. did that make its way all the way to you? and do you think there was adequate time? >> sir, clearly, as i have said before, we did not adequately do and to end testing. the products were not locked and loaded into the system until the third week in september. each of the component parts was tested, validated independently -- >> i'm sorry, all of those work, though, right? they told us last week that their individual models were tested and met specifications your to do you concur with that analysis? >> i do concur with the testing that was done, yes. >> so it really was the end-to- end, which is why some of us thought it should be delayed to avoid this very collapse that is now upon us. i realize not everybody agrees with that. the second piece here gets back to the "washington post," which i realize you have not had a chance to read this morning, but the note about the president repeatedly saying if you

now in august, gci told cms in their report -- >> cgi. >> i'm sorry, cgi, thank you. august 9th there was not enough time in the schedule to conduct adequate performance testing. did that make its way all the way to you, and do you think there was adequate time? >> sir, clearly, as i've said before, we did not adequately do end-to-end testing. the products were not locked and loaded into the system until the third week in september. each of the component parts was tested, validated, independently val validated. >> i'm sorry. all those worked, they told us last week their individual modules were tested and met specification, do you concur with that analysis, based on what you know? >> i do concur with the testing, yes. >> it really was end to end, which is why some of us thought we should delay until it could be done right to avoid this very collapse that now is upon us. i realize not everybody agreed with that. the second piece gets back to "the washington post," which you haven't had a chance to read this morning, but the four pinocchios about the president repeatedl

among the people working on it are the employees of cgi who had been working on it this summer. to this day, not all the computer code that cgi is writing is working perfectly when it's tested by a broader number of people. things are sort of getting fixed, things aren't quite getting fixed, they go back and work on it again. it's a cumbersome process. >> do you think the administration might take a step to ask for a refund for the taxpayers. >> i haven't heard about that, whether those conversations are happening privately, i suspect we'll all know about it eventually. >> amy, thank you so much. >> good to be with you. >>> so the clock is ticking to the november 30th deadline and new problems hitting healthcare.gov, so are democrats starting to hit the panic button? starting to hit the panic button >>> first it was transfat, then big sodas and now it's styrofoam. today city lawmakers debating a law on to go cups and cartons. new york city is the take out food capital of the world. many restaurants use styrofoam cartons because they're light and they keep the food hot. now you b

is it cgi? >> cgi is one. cms is in command of all the contracts. cgi is one. >> i think all of you, in case it isn't said again, we believe that what you are doing today is important. i think what gao has said is there wasn't a single point of contact, an expert and charge the would be accountable and coordinate. that would asleep on their floor if that is what it took before october 1. that is the big reason we are here today. that is were gao is making the point to all of us that the next time there is one of these, we need to have somebody as close as we can come in the months and years preceding it. when i got the gentleman in south carolina. >> thank you. do you agree that there is a difference between an innocent misstatement of a perceived fact and a dilbert attempt to deceive? >> yes. >> so do i. when did you first realize you cannot keep your health insurance even if you did like it? is a health policy matter. it is outside of my lane. >> you do not know when you realize you couldn't keep your health insurance even if you liked it? >> i do

as recent as mid-2011, cgi, cgi federal, which is the canadian firm, the american subsidiary of cgi, the canadian group, was hired to come on and get obama care up and running. this was important. i call this a smoking gun, all right, this was in "the washington post" blog about four or five clicks in. it's a letter, an e-mail from cgi to cms. now, cms is the group that was charged with bringing the obama care website up and running. the group within obama care, the center for medicaid and medicare services. bear with me, one second. look, they told them that there -- this is august 17, six weeks before the launch, there were only 55% ready. they weren't even close for that thing to start. >> how do you find that in all those thingses that are wiped out? >> they just redacted napes. but it's cgi federal. this is going right to -- >> so they knew? but they didn't tell the president or they told him -- >> ard coulding to a lot of the things, president obama knew, his staff knew. it was so important for them to get that thing running, they just leaned on kcgi to get it ot there. >> who

who is the ceo of cgi? >> michael roach is the ceo of cgi global. >> my guess is from what information you have, you have donated up to $140 million for him to do this work? >> current spending is 400 million including cgi. this includes qssi. in such a sneaky way? why refuse to provide the contract to congress? i am from chicago where we always kind of follow the money. if i cannot find out where it >> i am happy to go back and check. a lot of information has been provided to congress. >> so, you will be able to provide the contract to us? >> i will get you everything i can, yes. >> don't you have money missing that has not been paid? my understanding is that there's about 100 million to go. after a disaster of this nature, is there a way to have accountability with the remaining funds? >> i will get back to you with that information. >> maybe he can skip a holiday in the bahamas. >> it appears you're going to inflict this on the people of illinois where media reports tell us of upwards of 30,000 residents

cgi federal -- >> they knew. but they didn't tell the president? >> according to a lot of things you are reading president obama knew, staff knew. it was so important for them to get that thing running they leaned on cgi to get it ready and it wasn't ready. >> obama said nobody is more mad than me? who would he be mad at? i am himself. >> look at this. >> are those people going to be able to keep their coverage as the president promised? >> the law does not say sears drop coverage. sears decides what is good for sears. they don't say you drop coverage. the edginsurance agency decide they are going to make money. when they drop coverage you blame president obama. he is not responsible for that. >> you were watching that. >> that was the best interview anybody has ever done with ezekiel emanuel. he has a smug look of someone who ruined a public bathroom. his own path of destruction seemingly unaffected his life. he's a bureaucratic version of hurricane katrina. obama care is a natural disaster an oil spill dust of human beings getting soaked there's

cgi, wow, are they lost, completely in the weeds. november, good luck, there's no chance -- >> i had a dream about sebelius -- >> you have weird dream also. >> she was in a floral pantsuit and i thought she was the queen of england. >> okay, on that note -- >> trying to get a job with

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and he basically sent these emails and said, guys, and this contractor cgi, cgi federal.rth going to be ready and we don't have enough people, and sure assure me that you are going to be ready the very next day, greta, he goes before the oversight government reform committee, house of representatives and says we're going to be ready october the 1st tavenner and ourselves are under oath. our tails are in a bind if we don't get this right by october 1st. they clearly knew it and lied to congress and said we are going to be ready. >> are you going to do anything about it? fudge the facts and loose with the truth. it's not a game. there are a lot of americans out there tonight who are really terrified about their health insurance. and maybe if henry chao on july 16th or jeff grant on july 8th had gone over to the white house and told somebody, maybe that it wouldn't have been launched on october 1st. maybe people wouldn't be without their insurance because their policies are cancelled. maybe because it's not funny. this isn't a game what they are playing. they have been, you

and on page 8 what i've handed you, cgi recommended that cgi and cms have a review board to agree on which issues can technically be solved and which should politically be solved. was such a review board convened? >> sir, i cannot tell you. i've never seen this document and i'm not aware of this recommendation. >> and cgi is responsible for the website, correct? >> cgi is responsible for the application. >> for the application. >> yes, sir. >> does it surprise you that in a slide show that they gave in october 11th they acknowledged political reasons for -- >> again, i've never seen this document. i have no idea what that means. did ask you cgi when they came last week? >> can you find out for us if such a review board was done and if any decisions were made on political reasons or on the other reasons and find that out for us? >> sir, i -- that question needs to go to cgi. i can ask them to report to you. >> this is their document? this is not our document. >> you would turn to page 9 of that document, please. it states challenges on page 9 that says under challenges, unable to dete

cgi and the president, months before the failed launch, problems. cgi told the administration it was making impossible demands and administration officials insisting the october 1st launch was non-negotiable. accusing cgi of missing deadlines and making excuses, and here's the kicker. according to that report, the government agency's chief operating officer, michelle snyder, was telling her colleagues "if we could fire them, we would." the "washington post" article goes into depth about what people thought would and wouldn't work just days before the launch. then in the final pre-flight checklist, 41 of 91 separate functions that cgi was responsible for finishing by the launch were still not working. so, fred, it really seems like today, and probably for the next few days and up until that deadline, fingerpoints will continue. >> has there been a response comes from the white house or anything else in the administration? >> yes pap response saying this was a complex project with a very short timeline. so they prioritize what they considered to be th

you said earlier in your testimony that all the fixes done by cgi would be required without additional fees, and that is in a cost plus contract. can you assure the committee that there will be nothing on the plus side, that the federal government pays to cgi for their repairs on a website contract? >> the cost-plus contract is already paid or planned for payment through march of 2014. so i am sure that that is a contract that they will operate under, yes. >> i am asking a very specific question. there is a plus waste part of the contract. i am sure the plus aced deal with additional work done over the scope, over the stated scope of the contract clearly. fixing this exchange was not part of the contract. >> it is required, there were, in their existing contract. they have to fix their problems. >> know that many of us will be looking at the statements made on the plus side to see if in fact we are paying cgi for their individuals to fix a website that they were contracted to produce for the federal government. again, i thank you for the work you've done on this. i know this is not fun

cgi awarded the contract we will learn more about that.hank you for joining us with your expertise. >> you're welcome, sir. >> they could wade through all of this regulation rather than hire a specialist who knows software won't work long in the private sector. private companies with their own money on the line requesticily learned who does not deliver. canadian journalist brian lilly wasn't surprised when he learned cgi was behind the obama care web site. why? >> this is a company that has figured out how to work with government regulations. they figured out how to wade through it 6,000 regulations that are governing the building of the obama care web site. they know how to do that. they have been doing this heit r a long time. >> they have a history of failure in canada. >> history of failure. they would point to some successes if you had their executives on right now. let me give you a few of these. $46 million was spent just to have them go away after paying them for a while to build a diabetes registry for the ontario health system. t

regularly with not only cgi federal, but also cgi global , to have these conversations, including one at 8:30 a.m. this morning. the work is expected to be completed. there are recovery processes, even in a cost plus contract. i will have to get you that information. i would not want to rely on my brain for that one. but i will work with our contracting person. but i would like to be able to get a copy of the contract as well. -- >> i would like to be able to get a copy of the contract as well. is there one with qs as well? si is that a cost plus contract as well? >> i will have to get you the details on that. i can certainly get you the information you requested. >> where is cgi headquartered? >> the headquarters are in virginia will stop -- in virginia. >> and qssi? >> that is a good question. minnesota? i'm guessing on that one. they also have offices in virginia. we are working with both the national and local. >> i also serve on the finance committee, and in the finance committee, cms testified on doing the testing on this website. we were assured that it had all been done. it is

the times describes tensions between the obama administration and the lead contractor, cgi months before the failed launch. sources saying cgi told the administration it was making impossible demands and administration officials insisting the october 1st launch was nongauchable accusing them of missing deadlines and making excuses. here is the kicker. according to the report, the government agencies chief operating officer, michelle snyder was telling her colleagues, quote, if we could fire them, we would. "the washington post" article goes into depth about what people thought would and wouldn't workdays before the launch. in the preflight checklist, 41 of the 91 functions they were responsible for were still not working. martin, it seems like the finger pointing continues. we have heard from both sides, cms the agency overseeing healthcare.gov says it was a complex project with a short time line. they would roll out the other items later, over time. cgi responded saying what we understand are silence leaves us exposed to other's conclusions out of respect for cms and other clients, we b

a company called cgi federal, whose executives have a history of botched government projects. "the washington post" reports top officials in cgi's acquired company, ams, have had at least 20 project failures, including -- writing useless computer code. sending paychecks to some dead retirees. shipping military parts to the wrong places. the company says those problems are in the past. at a congressional hearing last month, a company official defended its work and said the website was tested and ready. but with less than two weeks to meet president obama's new deadline of fixing the health care website, new alarm at the white house. >> i think right now, they're in triage. once you've stabilized, how do you give confidence to the american people and to the president himself that you have this under control going forward? >> reporter: and even when the website is fixed, 1 in 5 users will still be unable to enroll online. and senior administration officials tell me tonight, david, that is a best case scenario. >> best case. all right, jeff zeleny at the white house tonight, thank

when my e-mails were submitted as efrvidence that is it. >> i want to talk specifically about cgi.if you worked in a group and didn't have formal meetings or minutes and memos and things of that nature, give me your impression and your perception that caused you to lose confidence in cgi. you mentioned price, and i think it is interesting, i note in the e-mail change from outerbridge, they had $40 million and wanted another $38 million. if i had someone who used up all of money and then came back and asked for more, i think i would have to say wait a minute. the praise price was a concern to you? am i right on that? >> correct. >> what else in their conduct eroded your confidence in their ability to do this transaction? >> i think speaking to most project managers that are looking at smaller-scale projects, there might be room to be a little more confident and my level dealt with the enormous amount of activities we had to be successful about to deliver on the light account interim piece and the october 1st rollout. >> did you present the concerns about being ready on the october 1

i want to talk specifically about cgi. what about -- you know, if you in formerly worked in a group and did not have formal meetings or minutes and memos and things of that nature, just give me your impression on what impressed you that you were behind, because you mentioned price, and i note in this e-mail chain from monique that they had $40 million already, they were coming back and asking for another $38 million. if i had someone who had used up all of their money from a project and then they came back and asked for that much more, i think i would have to say wait a minute. so regardless -- obviously the price to you was of tremendous concern. am i right on that? >> correct. >> they had already lost your confidence there. what was in their conduct that he wrote it their confidence in their ability to transact this portion of this business? >> i think what i was trying to say is relatively speaking to i would say the most project managers that are looking at smaller scale projects, there might be some room to be more co

they were trying to modernize is and then cgi screwed up their. web site and then screwed up us. >> they had a slow rampup of its program, and the federal government decided to write the software for its program. california took a lot of off the shelf software and it's doing better. washington state is another interesting glitch, the vast majority of people who have enengaged with the program are seeking medicaid. they're not the healthy young kids who we're hoping to sign up. >> states have made that difficult in some cases on purpose. >>> the justice department reports it will allow a merger between u.s. usairways and american airlines. the government sued to block the deal. attorney general eric holder said the merger would lead to higher ticket prices and fewer optionsful today he said, i quote, the agreement has the potential to shape the landscape of the airline industry by guaranteeing a bigger foothold for lower cost airlines. this assures airline passengers will see nor competition. the settlement requires airlines to free up space for ot

there is a lot of cgi.ere we have all these elements, but at the same time you have a very human story, and the story doesn't give way to the scale of filmmaking. balanced, andl that is a credit to the director francis lawrence. there tavis: is something beautiful about it. tavis:one of the great things about your career is you seem to bounce between not just movies and theater but a lot oster franchise. mentioned aunt. but a franchise. we mentioned that. is that by design, or does it just kind of happen? >> if there is any design it is improvisation. big movie, big action stuff, but it is always done with the degree of intelligence. politics of the bond thing is complicated, but there is always a sense of relevance to those stories. films -- i do other films for other reasons. i have chosen some films because i wanted to stay close to home. i have two kids, and i put the brakes on film to some extent because i didn't want to be way from home for too long. i did some other things that drew my interest. it v

cgi, the contractor developing the site may have warned the obama administration that it would not be ready tro go live on october 1st. we know the administration says it needs until the end of november to fix the technical glitches. that's two months after it launched. to comment the penalty for not enrolling under the new law is effectively waved for six weeks. the new deadline will be march 31st. if you are one of the estimated 15 million americans who buy your own insurance, you are not employed through an employer or insured through an employer, you have to sign up for coverage by the deadline or face a penalty. you can do that through your insurer or go to the government changes, assuming healthcare.gov works one day. >> 8.5 million of 15 million could qualify for a subsidy. the affordable part of the affordable care act may be a misnomer for 6.5 millions that didn't qualify. we talk to a couple in carolina whose old policy is no longer available. >> gregs and his wife got an unpresent surprise - health premiums are doubling. they pay $629 to cover themselves and daughter sophie

cgi federal beat out three other companies for the job in 2011. bidders which that had been precertified year earlier, meaning newer and smaller companies, were simply shut out of the bid progress says. it may be no surprise that the cost, shockingly, started to rise almost immediately. 2011 cgi reported its contract was $43 million. reports from reuters and "the washington post" showed the government could end up paying the company more than twice that. so how did a president who ran the most tech-savvy campaign in united states history wind up with this? clay johnson is founder and ceo of department of better technology, a nonprofit that develops technology for governments, also a former presidential innovation fellow and lead programmer for howard dean's 2004 campaign. clay, ufsh probably the report they're has -- or the analyst that has written the most about this. excuse me. i'm saying reporter, but you have written a lot about this issue. i hope i scratched the surface of the issue, but go ahead and go deeper for me. >> well, yeah. i think w

if you look more deeply into the document that is before you, you had the cgi checklist there. the defect report. consistent, mr. chao, with what you have said. this defect report says that defects.e 22 to fax -- >> would you make that document available? >> i will. >> let me, this, i am troubled roles thes committee white house into these matters without any evidence. white house is accused of -- of not knowing enough and they have been accused of directing theers, with respect to anonymous shopper function. even the chairman has said that on television. i would like to ask mr. chao about that issue. um, this notion -- the question really has to do with whether you were forced to register, uh, and then, um, shop. whether that change was, uh, -- whetherhopping that change was made because of the involvement of the white house in any way. >> absolutely not. it was a decision made on the results of testing and it would be pretty egregious and i understand that a lot of people want to know why the website is functioning a way that it did. to consciously know that it failed testing

. >> is there any penalty to qssi or cgi for not delivering on what they promised? >> users who tried to sign up and were discouraged because of the problems what do you plan to get those folks to come back? >> did the contractors deliver the system that you contracted them to build? >> do you believe that two weeks was enough time to complete testing of the entire system? >> stewart: what a bunch of -- surprisingly relevant questions. those questions were actually quite good from both sides of the aisle. you would almost think they were at this hearing to hear. are we really going to spend three hours of having productive discourse? >> there is a famous movie called "the wizard of oz" -- >> stewart: whoa! do go on. >> in "the wizard of oz" there is a great line, dorothy, at some point in the movie turns to her little dog toto and says, toto, we are not in kansas anymore. well, madam secretary, while you are from kansas, we are not in kansas anymore. >> stewart: let me just stop you right there. the dog's name is toto. not toootooo. >> the democrats when they came u

cgi federal got $900 million from the federal government from our government.t's a canadian firm. $300 million for the website. the most aggravating is the $7 million they got sin october 1 and since they botched the rollout of healthcare.gov. >> they should have never been hired in the first place. when an average american decides to invest or spend their money in a good or service they do research. they often go to websites like yelp and read reviews. the government decides to spend hundreds of millions of dollars of the taxpayer dollars, they do absolutely no research. because if they did, they would have never done business with the company. c.g.i. was hired by canadian government to create a medical registry and the canadian government ended up walking away from the $46 million contract and firing c.g.i., because they never created the medical registry. they were 14 months behind deadline. and they were not doing anything. it never happened. any rational person would have seen the history and said to, we're not working with c.g.i. but the vernmentays yes,

various thects of the marketplace, andfacility for secure -- addition to the hub, cms contract with cgi federal to build the federal facilitated market the places to which consumers use to apply for health coverage through private qualified health plans inaffordability programs. access the system at any one time. immediately address the capacity issues in the first few days and continued to work on and betterrovement user experience. healthcare.gov is made up of subdivisions, one called learn and contains information to assist and educate consumers about the marketplace. a premium estimation tool was launched on october 10 to allow consumers to browse health care plans without creating alan health care -- without creating a healthcare.gov account, which contains the online application for enrollment. only the new tool could sort into two age categories, its functionality will be expanded to accommodate additional scenarios to fit consumer shopping profiles. this tool is different from the efforts of an application because determinations about of an applicant in his or her in his or her

cgi, the contractor responsible for building healthcare.gov, can you explain your role within in the last weeks of september. were you in contact with them? were you working with them one on one? were you in the office? >> yes. i actually, i moved down to herndohundred and live in a hotl since september 102 about the last week of october. >> so you were actually there in their offices working out of their offices? >> yes. >> one of the things -- i have about a minute left on my time. the president announced a text search to fix the website. who is involved in the search? >> their -- top part is involved, and there are two fellows, one by the name of mikey dickerson, and another either name of greg gerchman. >> do you know about their compensation? how are they being compensated? >> i have knows -- i have no insight into the. >> did they have to sign an agreement? >> i don't know. >> who do these individuals report to? >> i'm not actually i'm not sure who they have a contract with. >> but you are in charge of the technical component to healthcare.gov, and they don't report to you? >>

>> woman of my word. >> oh, her. >> a story about the cgi federal in just a minute.a gunman opened fire terrorizing hundreds of shoppers for hours and hours will reopen to the public. you're looking at a live picture of the garden state plaza mall in paramus, new jersey. that's where 20-year-old richard shoop fired at least five shots inside. thousands of shoppers had to be evacuated while others were forced to hide. no one was hurt. shoop was found in the back part of the mall hours later. police say he killed himself. they believe he wasn't out to hurt anyone except himself. >>> she's headed back to the hot seat today. kathleen sebelius supposed to answer more tough questions from congress about the failures of obamacare. today senators will not only grill her about the program's failed rollout, but also about the law itself. >>> if at first you don't succeed, this is a story i just mentioned -- that company behind the struggling obamacare web site is given more federal contracts from the government. in fact, that company, cgi federal, is getting five new contracts

to facilitate the functions of the marketplace, cms contracted with qssi to develop the hub and cgi to develop the federally facilitated marketplace. the hub facilitates information a consumer provides. with nflgs maintained by other sources such as ssa and irs. in addition to the hub, css contracted to build the federally facilitated marketplace system which consumers used for private qualified health plans and for programs like med cicaid and advanced tax credits.

to facilitate the functions of the marketplace, cms contracted with qssi to develop the hub and cgi to develop the federally facilitated marketplace. the hub facilitates information a consumer provides. with nflgs maintained by other sources such as ssa and irs. in addition to the hub, css contracted to build the federally facilitated marketplace system which consumers used for private qualified health plans and for programs like med cicaid and advanced tax credits. we underestimated the volume of users to access the site at one time. we immediately addressed the issue and continued to work on performance and create a better experience. health care is made up of two major subdivisions. one is called learned and continues to educate consumers. while the premium estimation tool can only sort consumers on its first launch, its functionality will be to better fit consumer shopping profiles. this is different from the application because determination for assurance affordability programs, mecaid and chip, are specific to the characteristics of an applicant in his or her household and ask on

the company, known as cgi, has been linked to the mishandling of at least 20 other government projects. "the washington post" says those failures include writing useless computer codes, shipping military parts to the wrong places. concern is growing at the white house with the deadline to fix the website less than two weeks away. >> right now, they're triaging. once you've stabilized, how do you give confidence to the american people and to the president himself that you have this under control going forward? >> even when the website is fixed, the white house believes 1 in 5 users will still be unable to sign up. >>> an update on the health of former african president nelson mandela. he is still quite ill and cannot talk because of the breathing tubes. because of his great susceptibility to infection, he has to be kept in a sterile environment. winnie mandela says he's been treated by 22 doctors. >>> the president of the philippines saying he will stay in the storm zone until he sees more relief efforts and progress. he's set up in tacloban. where virtually every building was destroyed

. >> i just want to point out that's a cgi component. see on the bottom, it says -- >> yeah, i understand that. >> that to their knowledge, there has not been a comprehensive test of the entire system. what are the dangers posed by not conducting a complete integrated security test of all the system components? >> in order to ensure your data is complete. >> based on what you know, were americans sensitive personal information at risk when healthcare.gov opened? >> i don't know what happened from mid september on. that's the only caveat i'd lake to say. >> can you enshoe, could you then ensure -- >> if you could wrap up. >> last question, can you ensure the american people that the website will work on november 30th? >> the gentleman my answer. >> that's not my responsibility. >> if anyone else wants to answer until november 30th, they may. >> the team set a goal of having healthcare.gov function smoothly. >> is this new information? >> thank you. okay. >> the gentleman from nevada. >> thank you, mr. chairman and to the ranking member an