. >> we had a cha retina dog patch i can tell you you can't do it in one meeting we're looking at parking and all of dog patch so the mta came in and they put down sheets of paper and said for the next thirty minutes we'll breakdown into groups and look at the that concludes my remarks and streets you can't talk about the places in front of our building in thirty minutes neither the times what do the residents and the business owners think they're important but if they go off and make a plan on that one design i am not nothing way accomplished we do we sit down and talk about that quite frankly i don't care i have parking in any building and tell my employees oh, well when i saw how complicate not only did he care i have a fantastic appreciation for how compacted is not to say that the mta voters are nefarious but they go down their own path without having the full knowledge of the constituents there are in their minds their own best constituents they're the transportation professionals great you go to school so learn that's what they do everyday. >> urban mr. haney independence economics