we start on the hill with chad pergram and the late-breaking news over a deal, and agreement in principle on the wall and those i.c.e. detention beds. chad, good evening. >> good evening, shannon. there is a meeting late this afternoon between the four team members of the house and senate appropriations committees. there was kind of a funny moment at one point, patrick leahy, top democrat on the appropriations committee from the senate stuck his head in the hall and said

liz: chad pergram is reporting perhaps $1.6 billion for the border funding of the wall. that's what the committee hashing this out may be offering. that still might be too close to the initial democrat offer of $1.3 billion in the fall. let's see if the president signs on to a 1.6 billion plus number. more troops heading to eagle pass, texas. more migrants potentially on the way. we have a new report coming in. almost 2,000 migrant attempting to illegally cross into the youth every day. casey stegall is in eagle pass with more. casey? >> a couple things to point out. we are talking about two different caravans, the one that arrived here across the border from eagle pass where we are. that is comprised of 1,800 or so. then you have a second group entering mexico from guatemala. that one said to be heading toward the san diego, tijuana area. if they are seeking asylum like a majority of the folks are, each asylum case has to have an initial interview. the fed tell us it takes 2 to 3 hours for each under view to happen. here in eagle pass with a caravan of 1,800, they can o

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we start on the hill with chad pergram and the late-breaking news over a deal, and agreement in principle on the wall and those i.c.e. detention beds. chad, good evening. >> good evening, shannon. there is a meeting late this afternoon between the four team members of the house and senate appropriations committees. there was kind of a funny moment at one point, patrick leahy, top democrat on the appropriations committee from the senate stuck his head in the hall and said there's no white smoke yet. come 8:30, there was. what they have agreed to is $1.375 billion for 55 miles of wall along the texas border with mexico, the rio grande valley. i was there in richard shelby, the chairman of the senate appropriations committee came out and talked about the tentative record. >> we worked it out in principl principle. >> you have signoff from the white house? >> we talked from time to time, as you well know, from the white house representatives. >> this is always one of the key problems they have you on capitol hill that they think they have a deal with the president and then he doesn't sign som

now we want to take you behind the scenes of the state of union with chad pergram, what did you findwear the fight at home tonight, and i counted 90 different times the president was interrupted by applause, mostly by republicans, sometimes bipartisan, that is a lot for a speech that ran about one hour and 22 minutes. i talked to democrats after the speech, house speaker nancy pelosi when she left the building, disappointed the president didn't bring up gun violence. i also talked to democratic senator chris coons i'm delaware, surprised about the cancer research at the end of the day, that is not a lot of money. and here's something chris coons said to me, a lot of engaging proposals in the speech, but they lacked details. you know it didn't happen in the speech? there was no conversation directly about a border wall, and that is significant to this conversation about a government shutdown. as the conference committee tries to forge a deal in the next ten days. >> ed: why does the conference committee meet next? what do we know about that? a deadline about 90s away, what are the pro

joining me, chad pergram, fox news senior capitol hill producer. e vote mix look like now? >> if you move a bill across the house floor, you have to look to the middle. a coalition of republicans and democrats would agree to. what that probably means. members at margin, liberal members on left and conservative members of the right would not be for the final vote. keep in mind they're not there yet. kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader said they will know. they're working throughout the weekend. staff will be here. trying to get this in legislative form come monday. i've been told generally members of the conference committee are optimistic. i was told by one senior source they were more pessimistic now than they were the day before. keep in mind the richard shelby the chairman of the senate appropriations committee. he met with president trump, came back almost ebullient, that this was the best meeting he had. i was told by one source there is a long way to go. if they move this, they have to get the math right, the number of votes and the othe

senior capitol producer, chad pergram explains. >> is called a conference committee. a group of bipartisan, lawmakers selected to serve because of their expertise on a given issue. this is what prompts a conference committee. divergent versions of legislation but that the work at the differences.that is up to the conference committee. in the purest form a conference committee is an open wide ranging debate between the 2010 comes committee on dodd frank financial reform legislation. and a conference committee is nothing more than a glorified press conference like the one on border security. one open session and everything else behind closed doors. >> thing of the compass committee as a congressional art. you take increase from the house and senate and in digital frontiers, ages, walls, drones, fencing. and dump them into a blender. hopefully, when they mix everything together, it produces a single unified house-senate bill. this combo legislation is a conference report. once approved in the condiments committee the house and senate take the conference report back to th

>> i was getting his in my interview with chad pergram. why is it that nancy pelosi, and that the government is reopened and seemingly everyone is in the party has said, yes, some berries would be a good idea. why would she do say that? >> because she thinks that she is winning. i don't know what she thinks the endgame is. i think she thinks that donald trump will fold. i don't think that will happen. it is clear at this point that is what pelosi thinks. otherwise she will be saying i'm against a wall but i am for barriers. i understand we have to have some increased security at the border. she will be saying the things. also think a little bit if this is she acts like i'm a she literally has just been speaker this time for the last 15 minutes and actually she's been running the show in d.c. for the last 50 years. >> in her mind she has been. >> i know! there's a level of cockiness that if i were a democrat i would be concerned that she was overplaying her hand here. >> let me ask you this. a lot of people i talked to our maybe not bedding

fox news senior capitol hill producer chad pergram joins us with the very latest. well, richard shelby, the chairman of the senate appropriations committee, one of the persons charged with putting together this deal, he says we are close but we're not quite that close. but he did go to the white house today to meet with president trump and when he returned, i'm going to read you precisely what he said. it's quote, the most positive meeting i've had with the president. that's a big deal right there. now, what we've learned in about the past hour or so here, this might be the pathway to getting a deal, is that the conferees on this committee are trying to arrive at a number for border security, border wall, barrier fencing, whatever you want to call it, that's above $1.3 billion. they would go north of that number and then what the democratic trade-off would be is they would be able to impose restrictions on the money, maybe even going back and putting restrictions and strictures on what they spent previously for border wall and border security money. that's very impo

going to chad pergram with more on all of this. chad? >> right now, the senate is taking this final vote on this appropriations bill. keep in mind this is what we call a mini bus. it's not an omnibus. where they glom together seven of the appropriations bills that were not finished. the seven is the department of homeland security. looking at this vote right now, look at the screen, there's more than 80 yeses on this bill that is a big deal. what that mean is that was so much support for this between republicans and democrats the president was about to be abandoned by this. mitch mcconnell did not put this piece of legislation on the floor until he got assurances from the president of the united states that he was in fact going to sign it. that was an issue in december. you might remember that mitch mcconnell felt he was burned when they put a bill on the floor to avoid a shut down for five or six weeks and the president said i'm not going to sign it. one of the other issues here, is what is going to be the cons constitutional issue in t

. >> dana: stick around, we'll bring in chad pergram, from capitol hill, chad catch us up, are they comingon? >> they're about to go to the final vote on the house floor right now, which would pass a bill to expand universal background checks on firearms. and we were told by the committee chairman, elijah cummings, democrat why maryland, they would restart the hearing 30 minutes from the start of this vote. i'm looking offscreen, and we're thinking that this vote is going to start any nanosecond. you'll probably hear bells go off behind me when it starts, that's when you can start to run your clock when the hearing with michael cohen will resume. this piece of legislation is an interesting piece of legislation. hasn't been a major bill on firearms moved through the house and the senate in 25 years. you have to go back to the brady bill in the early 1990s. also the assault weapons ban, part of the crime bill in 1994. and this is supposed to be a bill that will get bipartisan support. look at moderate republicans, people like pete king, from new york, and also fred upton from michigan, brian

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we had our own chad pergram on earlier today, what he is hearing, there is probably enough democratsgh republicans to get it over the finish line, is that your take on what could possibly happen? >> melissa, i'm loathe to contradict chad. he is one of the best sources on capitol hill. folks are still waiting on the final language. we've seen big numbers but you know how the details are. folks are always trying to slip a little something in that moves the needle one way or the other. i want to see that final language. i'm hoping we get to a place that folks can get on board. melissa: everyone is saying they will try to read it before they vote. how long will it be, is that realistic? >> there is really a good chance for that. we're looking at particular sections. are there restrictions on detention beds? will i.c.e. have the flexibility to protect america from not having to release dangerous criminals back out into the, into the interior? are we putting new miles of fencing in those areas where we know we need them most to prevent the flow of human trafficking. melissa: this is only 5

chad pergram is live on capitol hill. this had been talked about, chad, our senior producer. it was uncertain whether he would do it. it seems certain that there will be legal challenges. >> there will be. he has under the statute the ability, about -- multiple reasons as to why you can declare a national emergency. he does have firm ground there. the thing i would look more carefully at, shep, what we call transfer authority. so if you have individual spending bills and they have only allocated 1.375 billion for the border wall, does he go around congress and try to move money from account a to account b inside the spending bill without getting the blessing of congress. part of the statute says that you have to get a sign-off by appropriations committee. part says that you can go around it. does he say take the department of homeland security bending bill and dip in to the military spending bill, the defense appropriations bill or what we call the v.a.milcon bill and go across spending bills. that could be where there's a greater legal challenge. that's the bigger problem ri

chad pergram said it's 1.6. either way it's an insult to the president.wants $5.7. if he doesn't get that i wouldn't take them to camp david. lou: the president won't be there. it's just a curious play by mulvaney to what end i don't know. but i believe it's time for this president not to honor such ignorance as that exhibited by the conferees. they are awfully -- well, they are arrogant and incapable. ed: the senate is controlled by the republicans. each side has a vote. the republicans ought to be demanding the $5.billion. lou: mitch mcconnell is work as hard against this president as the dems are. the latest on the crisis on the southern border where thousands are waiting to get into our country. before we go to break. the national debt, sorry to remind you as it approaches $2 trial. we are coming back with much, much more. hell is a popping in the lou: 2,000 central americans are settling near the eagle pass texas border sending their fifth day in a temporary shelter. officials say they won't allow the migrants to leave the shelter unless they have me

chad pergram is on capitol hill with the details.ter: here is what we learned the past couple days. mitch mcconnell is going to put this on the floor and he says he'll do it before the august recess. i'll read you two statement from the majority leader. the democrats who you ad it say it's a massive reorganization and takeover our economy and culture. mcconnell says it's a santa claus wish list. the philosophies behind his, textbook socialism are foolish and dangerous. what mcconnell is doing, he's taking a play from a play he ran in 2017. bernie sanders had a medicare for all plan. mcconnell said let's put it on the floor. none voted for it. they all voted present. chuck schumer, i tried to opinion him down yesterday to say will democrats vote present? all he would say is we won't participate. but what this is really about is 2020 and the presidential sweepstakes. look at the democratic senators running for president. what mitch mcconnell is trying to do is get the presidential hopefuls to say yes i'll vote for this and support it.

to fox news capitol hill producer chad pergram. what's the latest?lked to a senior source who was rather skeptical. they indicated they were more optimistic yesterday than today. now, what we are told is over the weekend, staff is going to continue to try to assemble this border security conference report, as it's called, where you blend what the house and senate agree to, then send it back to the house and senate to vote. what are going to be the trade-offs here? i'm told president trump is not going to get $5 billion for the wall. it is going to be more than $1.3 billion. lucille allard from california, she says quote, like in any negotiation, republicans want some sort of physical barriers. it's what do we get, meaning democrats, in exchange for them. kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, also spoke a few moments ago and said this weekend will tell us a lot about where this is all going. there's going to be a meeting at camp david not per se with the conferees but a couple are going. i know tom greaves and henry cuellar are meeting with mick

chad pergram, thank you for joining the program. >> thank you.r with evacuations in california pray there are concerns that the rain in malibu will prompt mudslides and flooding as the area continues to recover from last years devastating woolsey fire. jeff paul is in malibu with more. jeff? reporter: the wind has really started to slow down as the rain has. but authorities are warning residents to not let their guard down because this is what they're worried about happening.fast-moving debris flow in the area and in some cases, mudslides. this is something that we witness firsthand a little while ago. the situation changed in a matter of minutes. you take a look at the video here, you can see some of the fast-moving debris flows, but in this case and water just coming rushing down from the canyon. really, taking anything in his path that it comes into contact with. the reason we are seeing this is because much of the area was burned by severe wildfires. you combine that with moist soil and the water and you have mudslides. it is on top of the fl

chad pergram has more. what do you think? >> i talked to richard shelby.'ve ever had with the president. the question was, will the president still declare a national emergency if they got a deal? he said i would think he wouldn't. when you talk to members of the conference committee, they're positive right now. here's new information that i've just gotten. they believe that the sweet spot for border wall barrier fencing is a little more than $1.3 billion. that's restricted to this fiscal year. the other part of the deal, why would democrats go for that? because they're starting to put restrictions on how the money can be used. we'll go for fencing but we'll put restrictions on there. the appropriations committee have to get texts by monday. the house of representatives has this 72-hour rule. they have to bill text and post it for 72 hours and then they have to move it through the senate. i talked with mitch mcconnell. i said what happens if they can't get this worked out by a week from friday? that's the deadline. he says i don't want to see any more shor

struggling as we hear friend chad pergram, fox news with the writing of the legislation taxed. this comes after the meeting president trump said earlier is looking for landmine inside the deal. he met with the president of colombia. donald trump did not say our i.t. with nine the bill, but d.c. observers see as touting up in a percent increase in border while money as a positive sign. some positive smoke signals coming from the nation's top trade negotiations in beijing at this hour. u.s. representatives say they are making progress and things have gone so well between the two sides to treasury secretary stephen mnuchin and robert lighthizer will get with xi jinping. we've got the whole story covered. the massive star know what much of the nation means big bucks for companies looking to disrupt the to disrupt a billion-dollar snow removal industry. the founder and ceo of snow high this year exclusively to tell you how it works. no more hurting your back with a shovel, really? d.c. drama as the leader of t-mobile and sprint defender 25th $11 merger in charlie breaks on the high

and vince here, in legislative days, it looks as though according to our capitol hill producer chad pergramith a bill to put forward for consideration by this friday because of the requirements for three days and, the number of days in which they still have, they will be in significance. so that has to be friday. and we're told by chad as well, that if they have a, sure-fire proposition, that could give them until monday. so it is going to be on the 11th, at the latest, next three to five days, they will have to come up with an answer, not the 15th as some were saying. michael goodwin, vince coglianese, thanks to you both. appreciate it. >>> up next the incredible scenes from today's super bowl victory parade in boston. quite a parade. and the latest on the 2000 central americans who are thinking about rushing our southern border. we take all of that up and more with david bossie, right after this break. stay with us. ♪ air velocity is reading at fifteen fpm. why would you need to learn every detail about a company? firmness... nine. it's how ibm services helps retailers around the world dr

lester and fox news senior capitol producer, chad pergram. chris is interesting that 300 votes.is a vetoproof majority. you need two thirds to override a veto. when i think that will happen based on what the president told mitch mcconnell, senate majority leader earlier. breaking down the vote as i look at it, we were told by mark meadows, the chairman of the house freedom caucus a little before the vote started that he thought there might be up to 120 republicans it would vote yes. there are hundred 97 republicans in the house of representatives and they didn't even hit 100. there was a little bit of chatter i was hearing in the past few minutes that maybe the president is not happy with the package, could this influence or re-influence his thinking? we have seen this before the president trump where they have indications on capitol hill that they would sign something and then it has changed. at the end of the day he's going to declare a national emergency. he has some agility to move money around. but i have to tell you, it is not really that much money. $1.375 billion for the

david: straight to our senior capitol hill producer, chad pergram, who has had boring days but this was one of them. chad, first of all, a lot of us long suspected this would happen, sign the spending bill, then declare a national emergency. we know it's going to be challenged in the courts but will he have time to spend some of -- move some of the money around to spend on the border wall? reporter: it depends. i want to distinguish between what the president is doing in declaring a national emergency and a couple of options he already has available to him once they pass this bill. there what is we call transfer authority and the ability to reprogram money. he can already do some of that, part of the statute says you have to get a sign-off by the appropriators in congress. another part says you can kind of go around that. nancy pelosi, speaker of the house, she indicated just about an hour and a half ago she thought the president was going to do an end run and she didn't like that at all. members of congress from both parties are very protective of their prerogatives in the constitution

. >> harris: i've got an update from chad pergram, our washington, d.c., producer on capitol hill.gotiations stalled, we expect the chairs and ranking members of the house and senate probations panels to meet. they have just decided and announced that 3:30 p.m. eastern meeting once lawmakers are back in town." >> capri: that's good. >> harris: the key here -- this is the thing. to avoid that partial government shutdown from happening saturday morning, not so much on forging a deal on border security. are we moving away from getting a deal done, and just trying to keep the government open again, charlie? >> charlie: i think if democrats and leadership now are talking about taking away bed space to detain violent criminals than by all means we are moving away from any kind of a deal. remember, before now the whole notion of abolishing i.c.e. was still kind of a fringe leftist thing that was in the left part of the democratic party. if now democrats are talking about removing bed space, that means if you can't hold people you can't deport them. that is, in effect, abolishing i.c.e. th

from what i understand, i don't know a ton about this, you probably know more, chad pergram covering this is, that is little more difficult than it sounds. you have to have approval from congress to do a lot of that, right? >> it is tougher than just doing it, i get that but at the same time, the democrats in congress are forcing the president into this situation when he should not be put into the situation. he didn't come up arbitrarily with $5.7 billion, that is what i want. he got this from homeland security, border patrol who are experts know what we need. how can democrats in congress think they know better than we do? that is beyond me. connell: not one of those things i don't know what is right or wrong but you do know what is kind of possible. as you know the votes are not there. there is just no way to kind of get to that place, which leaves those who support that policy, kind of in a tough spot, right? if the president accepts this deal, in trouble politically with his own base? you are in touch with his base. what do you think? >> i don't think he will be in trouble with h

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chad pergram explains, good evening. >> said a majority leader mitch mcconnell wants to put democratsntroversial new green deal, especially all the potential and declared 2020 presidential candidates serving in the senat senate. republican saint new york freshman alexandria ocasio-cortez and agree new deal is contentious, calls for the u.s. to transition away from fossil fuels, it is laced with ideas like limiting guilt, air travel and guaranteeing all americans a government job and paid vacations no matter what. two republicans, that is a socialist pipedream and a real nightmare. chris murphy cosponsored a green new deal of the senate last week calling for a sweeping overhaul of the entire u.s. economy in ten years. >> i think it is absolutely realistic and i think we need to set our sights high. >> i've noted with great interest the green new deal. we will be voting on that in the senate, giving everyone an opportunity to go on record. >> he opposes the green new deal and dislikes show votes. in this case he wants to show where democrats stand on the green new deal. especially the g

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we should know, according i'm looking right now from some emails from our house producer chad pergraml tally should come somewhere around the top of the hour in about 15 minutes. and the magic number in the house is 217 as we watch those votes tally now and then at that point there will be a ceremony. nancy pelosi the house speaker will sign it and then send it over to the white house where you have been speaking to the chief of staff and the president's team will review it before he signs it. brian? >> brian: david, real quick, 10 seconds, anybody say something of note in their remarks before the vote took place that our viewers should know about? >> we do know that alexandria ocasio-cortez, she is a liberal democrat from new york, and as she was walking in somebody spoke to her off camera and she said she would be voting no because the actual bill gives money to homeland security. she says she wants to defund ice and parts of homeland security, brian. >> brian: right. she is definitely -- she is definitely different. always trying to stand out on every vote at every moment. david sp

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fox news senior capitol hill producer chad pergram. chad, this is a big bill. this is 1159 pages.now time is of the essence. they have got to sign this thing or the president has to sign this thing to prevent another shutdown. on the other hand we've got to read it, lord knows they know how to stuff it with all kinds of goodies, right. >> right. this is not just a bill for border security, this is not just a funding bill for the department of homeland security, a seven bill package, a minibus on capitol hill, but not omnibus. doesn't include all 12 spending bills. they hope to avoid the government shutdown by this weekend. as you say the president of the united states is not just reviewing but dozens and dozens of lawmakers on both sides of the capitol are doing the same. senator john kennedy said quote, we're not quite ready to hum, one shining moment yet. there is a lot to go through here. as i was told they don't think the senate will move on this until probably evening. there was a chance they thought maybe 3:00, 4:00. we're hearing sometime after 6:00 tonight. the reason is t

fox news chad pergram will know before anybody else i have a feeling. he join us from the hill. it isn't done yet, chad. what is the latest? >> it is not done yet. i spoke with house majority leader steny hoyer. here is the prospective schedule. they hope the bill is texted out by 4:00. to give members, white house, time to process it, see exactly what is it. the white house will not make any decision until they have gone through and vetted this bill. there will not be any vote or debate on the bill until tomorrow night after 6:30. here is the logistics. there is a funeral tomorrow for john dingell the representative. also people want to go to north carolina for the late walter jones of north carolina. that will delay things at earliest. one of the questions whether or not they have enough time to pros special this, for members digest in it. here is what steny hoyer said, do a cr, give them a couple extra days. here is what he said. it does place in doubt the operation of government. it creates anxiety. we need to resolve this here is the other pressure though, connell, there is

neil: thank you my friend, chad pergram.'s growing talk that house later senate lawyer warning his colleagues when it came to this issue on i.c.e. beds and all that and even abolishing i.c.e., they were overdoing it. take a look. >> some suggest eliminating i.c.e. as an organization. neil: using i.c.e. has valley. >> of course it does. and absolutely essential agency. as they either say it isn't doing now than it should be shut down, that goes through. >> i think that goes too far. train to how important was the more moderate approach in this and turning some heads on this. like you thought, what you make about? that? >> i think it is significant because they need votes. i think this deal is probably going to pass. surly there are some on the left you don't like it. definitely some in the right you don't like it, but they do have a middle and i think leadership is going to back this. president trump did not say he wouldn't sign it appeared he didn't really commit to it, but didn't say no. i think this train is moving and it'

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ainsley: nancy pelosi was asked about it by one of our reporters and one of our producers, chad pergrame and what she says about the democrats reputation and how in virginia how it effects the rest of the party. >> what's going on, does that filter down and damage the national democratic brand in any way? >> no, it does not. >> it's sad because there are some very talented leaders there, but they have to have the confidence of the electorate and they have the have the confidence of the legislature that they have to work with. i will leave that up to them. i have enough to do here without getting involved in the affairs of virginia. brian: why can't shoe say i have spent my entire career as a democrat and i'm embarrassed what is happening in virginia. she would be playing partisan politics and talking about the embarrassment which would be justified. instead, a governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general have embarrassed the party, embarrassed their state why does she have to say i didn't hear about it or i don't think it matter that much or change the subject. steve: she is sayin