and there have been indications from house republicans, for example, jason chaffitz that he has enough things to investigate for the next eight years if we want to put it that way that they can continue to pursue this on the hill. i think the next shoe to drop might well be the trump folks passing word to members of congress, especially republicans. they prefer not to go through hearings on her. you may want to have hearings on comey on the fbi and that sort of thing, but not to have hearings which are set up like the benghazi hearings to put her through the grill or put her on a grill. i think that's the spirit of what mr. trump has said or his spokesperson has said. the healing, i think it's all about her. >> all about her, right. that she's so devastated by this loss that she needs this time to heal which i guess you can look at two ways, right? it's like is he -- because, let's face it, she's a woman. and that just sounds sexist on some level, right? >> the first time i heard that quote i wondered if he would have said that about a man. i just have to -- carol, that's the first thi

chairman chaffitz works really well. a lot of what happens isn't making the front page of "the washington post" website. i do think it's happening a lot more than people give the house and senate credit for. fast and furious and benghazi occupy a lot of headlines. but a lot of good oversight is happening at a bipartisan level. >> i agree with that. that politicalized oversight gives oversight a bad name. when the public sees something that isn't on the level and there we knew it because the house majority leader kevin mccarthy suggested in a sense that the committee was created to damage secretary clinton's poll numbers as she prepared to run for president. he is not the speaker today because he was candid what happened with the benghazi committee. there were other examples of partisan as opposed to the bipartisan oversight steve and andy are talking about. partisan politicalized oversight that really disgusts the public, i think. it's just gamesmanship. it is burdensome to the executive branch to deal with it. it's unpr

. >> when you look at people like congressman jason chaffitz who promised to get to the bottom of ite have to pull together as a country. what john said is right. there's nothing to be served by prosecuting secretary clinton or even investigate her. let's go forward. let's address the problems of the country. >> pat? >> you know, i descent from this in one sense. everyone knows if she was elected there would be no further investigation. there are serious things here. 75% or more of the american people believe that there are two standards of justice in this country. and that is part of the reason, along with the 80% that believe the system is rigged for the rich and powerful against their interests. that includes many people who even voted for clinton. i think that -- i agree with my colleagues on one thing, the administration doesn't need to get into a vindictive or whatever, but the rule of law cannot be dispensed. i have said before, i think sometime in this process that the attorney general has to appoint a special counsel from outside washington that is totally reputable and let